In Deuteronomy 28:15-68...... God seems at his angriest, making severe threats to those who are disobedient. The threats that "God" is making here do NOT seem that they're coming from a rational individual. Some are quite disgusting.
I don't believe in that crap.
There's something terribly wrong with the "God" that we're supposed to believe in coming from the Old Testament.
Edit: I'm really beginning to think that somewhere along the way, in the past, somebody decided that the "God" of the Old Testament was far-fetched and needed a serious makeover...... introducing a rational Jesus into the story, then turning Him into the "real" God.
@chaney3 saidThe way the creators of the new cult-of-personality breakaway religion commandeered ancient Hebrew texts was strategically a good move but the farfetched narrative clumsiness caused has spawned 2,000 years of people wittering on in counting angels on the head of a pin mode.
In Deuteronomy 28:15-68...... God seems at his angriest, making severe threats to those who are disobedient. The threats that "God" is making here do NOT seem that they're coming from a rational individual. Some are quite disgusting.
I don't believe in that crap.
There's something terribly wrong with the "God" that we're supposed to believe in coming from the Old Testam ...[text shortened]... us makeover...... introducing a rational Jesus into the story, then turning Him into the "real" God.
@chaney3 saidThere are many examples of unjust punishments in the OT.
In Deuteronomy 28:15-68...... God seems at his angriest, making severe threats to those who are disobedient. The threats that "God" is making here do NOT seem that they're coming from a rational individual. Some are quite disgusting.
I don't believe in that crap.
There's something terribly wrong with the "God" that we're supposed to believe in coming from the Old Testam ...[text shortened]... us makeover...... introducing a rational Jesus into the story, then turning Him into the "real" God.
One of my favorites is when King David decides to take a census of the people - at the prodding of the Devil, of course. This is apparently a bad thing; they don't really explain why.
In the end, the Lord kills 70,000 Israelites as punishment for this supposed bad deed by King David. Those people hadn't done anything to deserve it.
@bigdogg said"The Lord will find pleasure in destroying you".
There are many examples of unjust punishments in the OT.
One of my favorites is when King David decides to take a census of the people - at the prodding of the Devil, of course. This is apparently a bad thing; they don't really explain why.
In the end, the Lord kills 70,000 Israelites as punishment for this supposed bad deed by King David. Those people hadn't done anything to deserve it.
The verses in Deuteronomy really sound like a madman speaking. It's not that the punishments are unjust, but evil, with pleasure in dishing out curses. It's really hard to think that someone could read these things and try to fit them into the tidy story of God loving his human creation.
@chaney3 saidAgreed; verses like that me think, with a God like that, who needs Satan?
"The Lord will find pleasure in destroying you".
The verses in Deuteronomy really sound like a madman speaking. It's not that the punishments are unjust, but evil, with pleasure in dishing out curses. It's really hard to think that someone could read these things and try to fit them into the tidy story of God loving his human creation.
@chaney3 saidThe God of Abraham and Job was an ornery SoB, constantly 'testing' his chosen people. The only rational response to such a capricious God is abject submission, as in the Book of Job.
In Deuteronomy 28:15-68...... God seems at his angriest, making severe threats to those who are disobedient. The threats that "God" is making here do NOT seem that they're coming from a rational individual. Some are quite disgusting.
I don't believe in that crap.
There's something terribly wrong with the "God" that we're supposed to believe in coming from the Old Testam ...[text shortened]... us makeover...... introducing a rational Jesus into the story, then turning Him into the "real" God.
I see the Bible as a journey both that God took with his people and that humans have taken.
And we're still taking, so maybe God is still taking as well.
We grow because of the people in our lives, connections we make, conversations we have. Maybe that's also how God has changed, maybe that's why He likes spending time with us.
@divegeester
Bingo ! Why do you think people who, in the Middle Ages, questioned things, were called "freethinkers" and anathematised by the Church?