15 Jan 10
Originally posted by webbinatorindeed, Mr Knob, watch it first.. I've seen it before it, it focuses purely on science. Well, there's no mention of Virgin Mary, Noah's Arc or Flying Spaghetti Monsters ;-). btw, I'm agnostic before you have a go at me 😉
watch it, then tell me it's crap. proof is proof.
15 Jan 10
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Originally posted by webbinator43 seconds in, narrator assumes that order implies design which is not true. He does this again with respect to the Earth ~2:00. 2:27, same thing. 2:43 he asserts that all organisms live "in perfect harmony" which is nonsense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sfHz3xyNc&feature=player_embedded
3:00, again, he says effectively "order = design". 3:14, similar. He then goes "design = creator". He then asserts this creator is the Abrahamic God.
~4:00 Assertion: Theory of Evolution denies "fact" of Creation, ~4:15 Assertion: All people who believe ToE deny that God exists. Assertion: ToE proponents believe evolution happens entirely by chance.
~4:40 Assertion: The Origin of Species was popular not because of scientific value but because of ideological implications i.e. supports atheistic materialists.
~4:55 Assertion: Karl Marx created materialism. Marx sent Darwin an autographed copy of Das Kapital out of admiration. Clearly Darwin was a commie atheist.
~5:25 Assertion: Darwin had no "sound evidence" to support his Theory of Evolution.
I'm not impressed so far.
15 Jan 10
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Originally posted by webbinatorthis is not how debate works.
watch it, then tell me it's crap. proof is proof.
you post a point. an argument. a claim. and you support it. with words. and then i or someone else counters it if he/she can.
what you did is put a link to somewhere. you haven't claimed anything. you were so lazy that you couldn't be bothered to summarize it. for all we know, you are trying to point out the dood'z jacket is seriously out of style and his eyebrows need plucking.
i will not watch a video simply because you put a link to it. i will not watch an hour of donkey show just so i would be able to say it's crap. i know bestiality is crap.
i will debate you on evolution if you want. as soon as you give me something to debate on. how about you stop being lazy and make us a summary of this latest proof on creationism?
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by RenarsI watched the first minute, winced at the 'look at the order in the universe, there must be a designer argument' and then turned it off. I can pretty much make a guess as to what the rest of the hour is going to be about.
indeed, Mr Knob, watch it first.. I've seen it before it, it focuses purely on science. Well, there's no mention of Virgin Mary, Noah's Arc or Flying Spaghetti Monsters ;-). btw, I'm agnostic before you have a go at me 😉
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungso far i am impressed you managed watching it 5 minutes.
43 seconds in, narrator assumes that order implies design which is not true. He does this again with respect to the Earth ~2:00. 2:27, same thing. 2:43 he asserts that all organisms live "in perfect harmony" which is nonsense.
3:00, again, he says effectively "order = design". 3:14, similar. He then goes "design = creator". He then asserts thi ...[text shortened]... no "sound evidence" to support his Theory of Evolution.
I'm not impressed so far.
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by webbinator34:00 "In the twentieth century, the theory of evolution was refuted not only by molecular biology but also by palaeontology."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sfHz3xyNc&feature=player_embedded
As you posted the video can you advise on these refutations mentioned? Preferably the peer reviewed papers.
Many thanks in advance.
16 Jan 10
Originally posted by PawnChopi'm not here to convince anyone of anything. i just thought people might talk about the movie… and they dd.
34:00 "In the twentieth century, the theory of evolution was refuted not only by molecular biology but also by palaeontology."
As you posted the video can you advise on these refutations mentioned? Preferably the peer reviewed papers.
Many thanks in advance.