Originally posted by FMFAgain this is more slime. Please not dear reader the assumed value that the argument contains that being that what was presented was my own perspective. Despite being told that it was not a personal perspective our slimey friend insists that it must be. How transparent, how underhand and how so thoroughly tedious to have to point it out.
Is this "Christian perspective" which you claim affects "the definition of rape" also your own perspective?
The idea of giving up authority over ones own body in marriage is actually in the Bible, how an alleged Christian of some twenty years could fail to have knowledge of this is truly astonishing.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieActually, I simply asked you: is the "Christian perspective" on rape, as you described it, also your own perspective on rape?
again this is more slime, please not dear reader the assumed value that the argument contains that what was presented was my own perspective. Despite being told that it was not a personal perspective our slimey friend insists that it must be.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI was a Christian who believed that a man forcing his wife to have sex against her will was guilty of rape.
The idea of giving up authority over ones own body in marriage is actually in the Bible, how an alleged Christian of some twenty years could fail to have knowledge of this is truly astonishing.
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFThe Christian perspective on rape? I have no idea what 'the Christian perspective on rape' actually is? Perhaps you can enlighten us?
Actually, I simply asked you: is the "Christian perspective" on rape, as you described it, also your own perspective on rape?
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOn page 30 you said this: "...the argument concerns a Christian perspective and the idea of consent, infcat its rather interesting that a Christian man or women cedes authority over their own bodies when they are married and what implications this has under the definition of rape. it does not apply to anyone who is not married or who is not a Christian
The Christian perspective on rape? I have no idea what 'the Christian perspective on rape' actually is? Perhaps you can enlighten us?
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFyes but so what? Its a reference to the Christian perspective of marriage, not of rape.
On page 30 you said this: "...the argument concerns [b]a Christian perspective and the idea of consent, infcat its rather interesting that a Christian man or women cedes authority over their own bodies when they are married and what implications this has under the definition of rape. it does not apply to anyone who is not married or who is not a Christian[/b]
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo, I was Christian who believed that men forcing their wives to have sex against their will were guilty of rape in any and all circumstances. It is still my belief to this day. Do you share my view?
yes but you also like to go around masquerading as a women, but we wont talk about that.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou claimed "the Christian perspective" [that you described] affected "the definition of rape" because it affected the definition of "consent".
yes but so what? Its a reference to the Christian perspective of marriage, not of rape.
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFI am uninterested in expressing any personal convictions.. I am interested in objective rational debate. Of interest to me is that you seem to have utterly failed to grasp the actual argument that was being proffered and have once again reduced it to your own personal perspective as if that has any bearing on it when it fact it does not even address it.
So, I was Christian who believed that men forcing their wives to have sex against their will were guilty of rape in any and all circumstances. It is still my belief to this day. Do you share my view?
If you were a Christian as you allege, what have you got to say about ceding authority over your own body to someone else and the implications this has.
Originally posted by FMFIt was the Christian perspective of marriage, anyone with an ounce of understanding can deduce this from the context because it mentions ceding authority over ones own body as is outlined in scripture for married people. Once again it seems we are battling against your ignorance. here it is here,
You claimed "the Christian perspective" [that you described] affected "the definition of rape" because it affected the definition of "consent".
For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 1 Corinthians 7:4,5
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI think it is a reference to the notion of monogamous union written a couple of thousand years ago. I do not believe it can in any way be used to alter the definition of rape or to characterize an act of rape within marriage as not being rape because of some sort of post-dated ongoing "consent".
If you were a Christian as you allege, what have you got to say about ceding authority over your own body to someone else and the implications this has.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDoes this mean to you that a Christian man can compel his wife to have sex when she doesn't want to or is your personal perspective on this matter confidential?
For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 1 Corinthians 7:4,5