Thought exercise #4.
Assuming...
[1] "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist, and
[2] assuming that this entity's existence means that we are potentially immortal beings or that the entity offers this to the beings it has created; and
[3] assuming this entity has communicated with our species and established a mandatory code of conduct, and
[4] assuming that, for those who do NOT make assumptions [1] and [2] and [3] ~ while falling foul of [4] ~ the ultimate penalty is death [as opposed to immortality],
...why would one argue that this is morally incoherent?
@fmf said...why would one argue that this is morally incoherent?
Thought exercise #4.
Assuming...
[1] "God" exists, where "God" is defined as an entity of some kind that somehow caused the universe we perceive to exist, and
[2] assuming that this entity's existence means that we are potentially immortal beings or that the entity offers this to the beings it has created; and
[3] assuming this entity has communicated with our spec ...[text shortened]... ty is death [as opposed to immortality],
...why would one argue that this is morally incoherent?
I don't know. Given the criteria you laid out I certainly wouldn't argue that this is morally incoherent, but there is something kind of important missing from thought exercise #4, and it is this: Those who have faith that Jesus, as God's son that died on the cross for their sins will not be judged under this "mandatory" code of conduct, that will be reserved for the unbelievers (who won't pass the test by the way!) The believers will be saved from this harsh test of morality because the penalty for their transgressions has already been paid.
@mchill saidThank you for your recital of Christian doctrine.
Those who have faith that Jesus, as God's son that died on the cross for their sins will not be judged under this "mandatory" code of conduct, that will be reserved for the unbelievers (who won't pass the test by the way!) The believers will be saved from this harsh test of morality because the penalty for their sins has already been paid.
04 Oct 22
@mchill saidNo there isn't. It is complete and intact.
there is something kind of important missing from thought exercise #4
If you want to to create a different thought exercise - a #5 - that factors in a story about a relative of the deity being executed - and something about "forgiveness" - and what this means for the concept, in the context of immortality, that death is the ultimate penalty - then be my guest.
@fmf saidNo there isn't. It is complete and intact.
No there isn't. It is complete and intact.
If you want to to create a different thought exercise - a #5 - that factors in a story about a relative of the deity being executed - and something about "forgiveness" - and what this means for the concept, in the context of immortality, that death is the ultimate penalty - then be my guest.
That's highly debatable. Your abstract thought exercise #4, would be perfect in the vacuum of a freshman logic class, but things don't work that way in the real world. You've presented this in such a way as to suggest this is simply how things operate, and they don't. An error of omission is still an error.
04 Oct 22
@mchill saidYou don't seem to know what a "thought exercise" is.
That's highly debatable. Your abstract thought exercise #4, would be perfect in a freshman logic class, but things don't work that way in real life. You've presented this in such a way as to suggest this is simply how things operate, and they don't. An error of omission is still an error.
@fmf saidwhy are you posting on this thread?
But this thread IS a thought exercise. If you "don't care what a thought exercise is", why are you posting on this thread?
In order to correct your inconsistencies of course. Your "Thought Exercises" are simply exercises in cherry picking facts and presenting them in a structured way as to suggest there is some cohesive logic behind them, when in fact they are no more than carefully chosen pieces of slanted verbiage that appears to support your views.
@mchill saidYou obviously don't know what a thought exercise is and you have admitted that you don't care. And now you seem all het-up about it.
In order to correct your inconsistencies of course. Your "Thought Exercises" are simply exercises in cherry picking facts and presenting them in a structured way as to suggest there is some cohesive logic behind them, when in fact they are no more than carefully chosen pieces of slanted verbiage that appears to support your views.