Originally posted by Soothfast Alas, it's an imperfect world. If everyone who professed to be a Christian were truly Christian, there would be no Republican Party in the U.S.
You give to much credit to political parties, I don't care which one you like or
dislike. Between the Rep and the Dem the one thing they both have in common
is that they are both filled with sinners.
Kelly
So ALL the evil that happens in the world is due to Man?
While I agree that some people use the idea of demons as excuses to take away their resposibility for their evil acts; can we say that all the evil in this world is due to Man? I don't think so...
Duality would suggest that if God existed then the opposite would also have to exist... the devil.
If there is good then evil also exists.
Just because we cannot prove/see something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
We can't see air but it exists....
Originally posted by shahenshah So ALL the evil that happens in the world is due to Man?
While I agree that some people use the idea of demons as excuses to take away their resposibility for their evil acts; can we say that all the evil in this world is due to Man? I don't think so...
Duality would suggest that if God existed then the opposite would also have to exist... the devil.
...[text shortened]... prove/see something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
We can't see air but it exists....
I'll say we bring on ourselves almost all of the evil yes. I disagree with "Duality"
as I believe evil is not needed at all in creation it is just a prevertion of good,
it is not an equally powerful force. Evil cannot stand on its own.
I do believe there are demons that tempt man, that try to prevert mankind into
destroying itself, but their time is short.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJay I'll say we bring on ourselves almost all of the evil yes. I disagree with "Duality"
as I believe evil is not needed at all in creation it is just a prevertion of good,
it is not an equally powerful force. Evil cannot stand on its own.
I do believe there are demons that tempt man, that try to prevert mankind into
destroying itself, but their time is short.
Kelly
I agree that evil is not an equally powerful force and it cannot stand for long.
Originally posted by KellyJay I'll say we bring on ourselves almost all of the evil yes. I disagree with "Duality"
as I believe evil is not needed at all in creation it is just a prevertion of good,
it is not an equally powerful force. Evil cannot stand on its own.
I do believe there are demons that tempt man, that try to prevert mankind into
destroying itself, but their time is short.
Kelly
St. Francis de Sales (I think; don't feel like checking right now) compared the devil to a big, vicious dog on a long chain. As long as you stay out of his reach, he can't do much to hurt you. But (and this is my own addition) there are some pretty attractive things in his yard.
Like all analogies, this one isn't perfect. But I think it captures the actual situation for most people, most of the time, pretty well.
Originally posted by pyxelated St. Francis de Sales (I think; don't feel like checking right now) compared the devil to a big, vicious dog on a long chain. As long as you stay out of his reach, he can't do much to hurt you. But (and this is my own addition) there are some pretty attractive things in his yard.
Like all analogies, this one isn't perfect. But I think it captures the actual situation for most people, most of the time, pretty well.
I'll give you that, we do tend to look for the attractive things a lot without
counting the cost.
Kelly
True, reminds me of a verse
1Jn 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the
eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Originally posted by shahenshah True, reminds me of a verse
1Jn 2:16 For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the
eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Sort of reminds me of we battle against the world, the flesh, and the devil.
Not sure who coined that, but it rings true to me. We do have lust within us,
the world system puts itself at odds with God, and devil is our enemy trying
to get us to line up with himself instead of God.
Kelly
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