1. Ketchikan, Alaska
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    14 Oct '06 18:11
    Originally posted by jaywill
    Dracos,

    They represent the same being. All three names refer to the same being.

    Satan is the Devil - that is easy:

    [b]"And the great dragon, was cast down, the ancient serpent, he who is called the Devil and Satan ..." (Rev. 12:9)


    Right there. The ancient serpent is the one who is called the Devil AND Satan.

    To show that Day ...[text shortened]... after having read a number of well written books on the subject along with my own Bible study.[/b]
    Thank you.
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    14 Oct '06 19:11
    Originally posted by Dracos Chikou
    Thank you.
    Do you understand that this evil spirit is working in all of the human race? This is why we need a salvation from his inner working.

    Right here the Bible teaches that Satan is the evil spirit operating in man:

    "And you [did he make alive] when ye were dead through your tresspasses and sins, wherein ye once walked according to the course of this world, according to the price of the powers of the air, of the spirit that now worketh in the sons of disobedience ..." (Eph. 2:1,2 ASV)

    The "prince of the powers of the air" is Satan the Devil. He is the spirit operating also within man to drive him to sin and transgress against God.
  3. Jo'Burg South Africa
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    16 Oct '06 13:12
    Originally posted by David C
    For giggles and grins, check out the Pokemon Rap played backwards:

    http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm
    very interresting
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    18 Oct '06 10:231 edit
    Mephistopholes is another.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_devils
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    18 Oct '06 11:51
    Originally posted by jaywill
    I think you have to decide whether you want to know these matters according to the Bible or according to popular liturature.

    I want first to know what the Bible is teaching. I don't go to Dante's Inferno, or Faust, or Paradise Lost, Screwtape Letters, or other great prose to abtain my essentials anwers.

    First I want to know from where did they obtain these ideas and what does the source teach about them.
    The Bible is not the source of all literature even literature containing references to Evil characters.
    Neither is it the source of its own contents.
    To understand the various references to evil characters in the Bible you would have to study Jewish history and culture and also that of the various cultures that interacted with them and were usually the source of many of these beliefs.
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    18 Oct '06 14:51
    Originally posted by Dracos Chikou
    I've never got this clarified but I know these names all represent diffrent beings (Lucipher multiple). I'm just wondering what order do they come in. That and what other names of famous hell lore I'm missing, (strictly to christian hell rulers. Not hades or others.)
    Same guy, different names.

    Lucipher when still an angel in the service of God. Devil/Satan afterwards.

    Also sometimes called Prince of Lies.
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    24 Oct '06 10:11
    Originally posted by lucifershammer
    Same guy, different names.

    Lucipher when still an angel in the service of God. Devil/Satan afterwards.

    Also sometimes called Prince of Lies.
    Something has always puzzled me.

    As Lucifer, he was supposedly the most beautiful of the angels.

    As the devil, he is portayed as a hideous beast.

    What happened to creat this change, wrong shampoo?
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    24 Oct '06 21:40
    Originally posted by sugiezd
    Something has always puzzled me.

    As Lucifer, he was supposedly the most beautiful of the angels.

    As the devil, he is portayed as a hideous beast.

    What happened to creat this change, wrong shampoo?
    God redefined "beautiful" after the rebellion.
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