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    28 Mar '12 18:11
    http://www.truthorfables.com/Pope_Did_Not_Change_Sabbath_Sunday.htm
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    29 Mar '12 05:03
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://www.truthorfables.com/Pope_Did_Not_Change_Sabbath_Sunday.htm
    When you see so many colours, sizes and fonts used in the text you just know what the intellect of the market is going to be ....
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    29 Mar '12 06:041 edit
    Originally posted by wolfgang59
    When you see so many colours, sizes and fonts used in the text you just know what the intellect of the market is going to be ....
    Well, to make everything simple and easy to read, the answer is "NO" the Pope
    did not change the Sabbath to Sunday. Sunday meetings and worship began
    immediately after the Resurrection when Christ appeared to His disciples. There
    is no record of any Pope declaring that he was changing the Saturday weekly
    Sabbath to Sunday. The meetings on Sunday, called 'the Lord's Day" was in
    recognition and in honor of Christ rising from the dead and to worship Him as
    our Lord and Savior. It became a tradition and had nothing at all to do with any
    attempt at changing the jewish Sabbath, which is still observed by the Jews. The
    gentile Christians never observed the Sabbath at all, but later these meetings on
    "the Lord's Day" was misunderstood as a Sabbath observance.
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    29 Mar '12 07:44
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Well, to make everything simple and easy to read, the answer is "NO" the Pope
    did not change the Sabbath to Sunday. Sunday meetings and worship began
    immediately after the Resurrection when Christ appeared to His disciples. There
    is no record of any Pope declaring that he was changing the Saturday weekly
    Sabbath to Sunday. The meetings on Sunday, call ...[text shortened]... but later these meetings on
    "the Lord's Day" was misunderstood as a Sabbath observance.
    Surely everyone already knows that? The only people I have heard who acted ignorant were seventh day Adventists, but they only pretend to be ignorant because they want to make out that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
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    29 Mar '12 10:31
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    Surely everyone already knows that? The only people I have heard who acted ignorant were seventh day Adventists, but they only pretend to be ignorant because they want to make out that they are right and everyone else is wrong.
    I think that there are others besides the s+Seventh Day Adventists that believe
    a Catholic Pope changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Even some members of the
    RMC brag about the power of their church to change the Sabbath to Sunday as
    being proof of their being the true church that Christ built on Peter, the rock.
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    31 Mar '12 12:13
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Did a Pope change the Sabbath to Sunday?
    What's your point?

    Do you keep the Sabbath?
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    Given the various shifts in calendars over the millennia does it even matter from a doctrinal
    point of view what day is kept holy as long as you keep every seventh day 'holy'?
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    31 Mar '12 22:541 edit
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What's your point?

    Do you keep the Sabbath?
    The point relates to my thread "Rise of Islam - Dainiel 7".

    In particular the following part of Dainiel 7:

    He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, -- (the AntiChrist speaks against Christ)
    Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, -- Christians will be persecuted)
    And shall intend to change times and law. -- (Muslim Calendar and Sharia Law)

    Islamic Sabbath change -- Attempt to change times and laws.
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    31 Mar '12 23:03
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Given the various shifts in calendars over the millennia does it even matter from a doctrinal
    point of view what day is kept holy as long as you keep every seventh day 'holy'?
    I have a lot of rest days in my old age. HalleluYah !!!
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The point relates to my thread "Rise of Islam - Dainiel 7".

    In particular the following part of Dainiel 7:

    He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, -- [b](the AntiChrist speaks against Christ)

    Shall persecute the saints of the Most High, -- Christians will be persecuted)
    And shall intend to change times and law. -- (Muslim ...[text shortened]... ndar and Sharia Law)

    Islamic Sabbath change -- Attempt to change times and laws.[/b]
    Sorry I don't understand, if it's to do with your other thread then why start this new one?

    If it's to do with the Pope how is that related to your other thread which is about Islam?

    Do you keep the Sabbath? Why is this whole thing important to you (you can answer this in my other thread about "Sabbath Keepers"
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    01 Apr '12 08:51
    Originally posted by divegeester
    Sorry I don't understand, if it's to do with your other thread then why start this new one?

    If it's to do with the Pope how is that related to your other thread which is about Islam?

    Do you keep the Sabbath? Why is this whole thing important to you (you can answer this in my other thread about "Sabbath Keepers"
    There are some that say the verse in Daniel 7 that refers to someone thinking to
    change times and laws refers to the Pope and the Roman Catholic Church since
    they say one of the laws they changed was the time of the Sabbath. The point of
    this thread is to point out that it does not refer to the Pope or the Roman Catholic
    Church. I had no more to say about Daniel 7 because I had already pointed out
    what the changing of times and laws referred to. So even though this thread was
    related to Daniel 7, it goes off on an entirely different subject that bring up unrelated
    questions, like the one you ask about keeping the Sabbath, which someone else
    has started a new thread on now.
    Now, as to your question, " Do you keep the Sabbath?" I could simply say, "Yes."
    However, I doubt you really know what keeping the Sabbath means and you
    would get a wrong impression and think I go to church every Saturday. If that
    is what you think, then the answer would be "No". I keep the Sabbath is the same
    manner that Christ did when the Pharisee accused Him of breaking the Sabbath.
    HallleluYah !!!
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    06 Apr '12 08:05
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I think that there are others besides the s+Seventh Day Adventists that believe
    a Catholic Pope changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Even some members of the
    RMC brag about the power of their church to change the Sabbath to Sunday as
    being proof of their being the true church that Christ built on Peter, the rock.
    The JWs believe something even more bizarre. They claim not only that Saturday was the day of obligatory religious worship but also that commemoration of the Lord's Supper was instituted on Sundays quite some time later by Pope Victor and that the original Apostolic practice had been to reserve this to the Jewish date of the Passover.
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    06 Apr '12 08:522 edits
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    The JWs believe something even more bizarre. They claim not only that Saturday was the day of obligatory religious worship but also that commemoration of the Lord's Supper was instituted on Sundays quite some time later by Pope Victor and that the original Apostolic practice had been to reserve this to the Jewish date of the Passover.
    dude your back, we had the annual observance of the lords evening meal last night,
    was awesome, 105,000 congregations worldwide celebrating the event, together with
    friends, pity you weren't there, oh well, you know that the ol church fathers changed
    the Sabbath because of their anti Semitism, I have provided references in the past,
    you know its true. We observe the lords evening meal after the manner of the Christ,
    on the day of the passover, an annual event, you know its true.
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    06 Apr '12 10:30
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    The JWs believe something even more bizarre. They claim not only that Saturday was the day of obligatory religious worship but also that commemoration of the Lord's Supper was instituted on Sundays quite some time later by Pope Victor and that the original Apostolic practice had been to reserve this to the Jewish date of the Passover.
    The Watchtower must be influenced by Satan for them to put out so much
    wrong information about Christ and Christianity. They certainly have no
    right to claim they are Christians. They are Jehovah's Witnesses. But who
    really is this Jehovah character they are trying to witness to. Is it perhaps
    Satan in another one of his disguises?
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    06 Apr '12 10:361 edit
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    dude your back, we had the annual observance of the lords evening meal last night,
    was awesome, 105,000 congregations worldwide celebrating the event, together with
    friends, pity you weren't there, oh well, you know that the ol church fathers changed
    the Sabbath because of their anti Semitism, I have provided references in the past,
    you know i ...[text shortened]... ter the manner of the Christ,
    on the day of the passover, an annual event, you know its true.
    Does that make you feel good and all puffed up and proud of yourself as you go
    through the motions as a pretender?
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