Did God create demons?

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16 Mar '05 18:24

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17 Mar '05 21:09
Originally posted by blindfaith101
No I have said that any understanding that does not line up completely with THE WORLD OF GOD, is false understanding.
Well, seeing as an understanding the 'Lucifer' is in the Bible when it
is patently not in the Bible, then you have a false understanding.

Seeing as you have Satan taking 1/3 of angels with him when that is
not in the Bible, then you have a false understanding.

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18 Mar '05 10:24
Originally posted by blindfaith101
When Lucifer rebelled he took 1/3 of the angels with him. When these angels lost their holy spirits(holiness). They became evil spirits,or some call them demons. CHRIST dealt with them as evil Spirits. So that is what they should be called. But many have been taught to call the demons. The word demon(s) is not found in the translations of today. But ma ...[text shortened]... ound in the early translations of the King James Version and earlier Versions of the Scriptures.
So your "god" deliberately and with malice aforethought did all these things.
And you worship this evil "god" ???
Your "god" deliberately creates demons and other vile creatures knowing that their purpose is negative.
Then your "loving god" ceates humans knowing that far and away the majority of which will choose not to believe in his doctrine of "selective salvation".
From the perspective of any god choice is an illusion.
The fear of the unknown controls most Christians.
So they create mythical tales of their "god" to explain the unknown.
Not even one of us truly knows what happens after we die.

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18 Mar '05 18:06
Originally posted by caissad4
So your "god" deliberately and with malice aforethought did all these things.
And you worship this evil "god" ???
Your "god" deliberately creates demons and other vile creatures knowing that their purpose is negative.
Then your "loving god" ceates humans knowing that far and away the majority of which will choose not to believe in his doctrine of ...[text shortened]... own.
Not even one of us truly knows what happens after we die.

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Angela
GOD has a set of laws. There are laws of Righteousness. As well as laws of Unrighteous. All these laws have a purpose. Lucifer lived in an enviroment, in which he lived among those that lived, by those laws of Righteous.GOD is a GOD of order. All of HIS laws serve a purpose. None of HIS created beings were ever to know the Laws of Un righteousness. GOD created all of HIS creation to focas on HIM,and not on themselves. Lucifer a created being decided to focas on himself. He decided to take the Praise and Glory that righteously belongs to GOD, and began to praise and worship himself. He didnot know there was a cost or the depth of that cost.
The devil, demons, and other vile creatures are created being that once lived in the place of Holiness. When they decided that they did not have to serve GOD. They broke the Laws of Righteousness. Breaking those Laws, they had to pay a price. That price was the loss of their Holiness, the form of Holiness. When they loss that Holyness, they were given a form of Unholiness. And they have to live by those Laws of that GOD has made for those of HIS Creation, that chose to live Unholy. Or better yet those Laws of unrighteousness.
You and other may feel that this was unfair, but why? Do those of us that have children, do we not teach them to obey us. If they decide that they decide that they rather listen to the neighbor down the street, or decide to do their own thing. Is there not a price they pay in their life? Does not their life change? If a child is taught to live right and god. And they decide to listen to their friends or set out to do their own thing. Is there not a price they pay? Wwhen a child is taught do right, but they decide to do wrong. Do they not pay a price?
Sure it is easy to blame GOD, because he is the creator of all things. But when do we decide to put the blame in Righteous place. The blame is not on GOD for HE never intended or wanted what has happened. But HE created the Angels, Man, and other created beings to serve and worship HIM. Lucifer, man and others decided within themselves not to. The blame of all of this is on The Devil and Man. Blame the devil. Blame yourself(s)
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18 Mar '05 18:17
Originally posted by blindfaith101
GOD has a set of laws. There are laws of Righteousness. As well as laws of Unrighteous. All these laws have a purpose. Lucifer lived in an enviroment, in which he lived among those that lived, by those laws of Righteous.GOD is a GOD of order. All of HIS laws serve a purpose. None of HIS created beings were ever to know the Laws of Un righteousness. GOD ...[text shortened]... not to. The blame of all of this is on The Devil and Man. Blame the devil. Blame yourself(s)

One of the key issues.

Let's blame God not ourselves.

or for the atheists:

Let's blame those who believe in God, not ourselves.
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18 Mar '05 18:27
Originally posted by ivanhoe

One of the key issues.

Let's blame God not ourselves.

or for the atheists:

Let's blame those who believe in God, not ourselves.
That is why GOD has prepared a place just for them.
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18 Mar '05 18:30
Originally posted by ivanhoe

One of the key issues.

Let's blame God not ourselves.

or for the atheists:

Let's blame those who believe in God, not ourselves.
Blame god for what exactly?

And who's blaming you for anything ivanhoe?
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20 Mar '05 09:40
Originally posted by blindfaith101
GOD has a set of laws. There are laws of Righteousness.

Yes, in my religion we call this the Universal Law (As you give, so shall you receive)

As well as laws of Unrighteous.

Now you are making things up.

GOD is a GOD of order.

And just where does your "law of Unrighteous" fit into this order??

All of HIS laws serve a purpose. ...[text shortened]... You did say that nothing created by God is without God-given purpose. Didn't you?

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20 Mar '05 11:33
Originally posted by blindfaith101
First Lucifer was the fourth most powerful force in heaven. There has always been GOD first, his SON second, and third THE HOLY SPIRIT, even though these three are also reconized as one Spirit.
The story as much as GOD has intended to know is in THE WORD OF GOD. There are no other sources of information. There has never been evidence that GOD has allo ...[text shortened]... at happen. And if he did knowing that he is a liar. He could not tell the truth if he wanted to.
"The story as much as GOD has intended to know is in THE WORD OF GOD. There are no other sources of information. There has never been evidence that GOD has allowed to speak on what happen. And if he did knowing that he is a liar. He could not tell the truth if he wanted to."

What are you trying to say?
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20 Mar '05 11:40
Originally posted by blindfaith101
GOD has a set of laws. There are laws of Righteousness. As well as laws of Unrighteous. All these laws have a purpose. Lucifer lived in an enviroment, in which he lived among those that lived, by those laws of Righteous.GOD is a GOD of order. All of HIS laws serve a purpose. None of HIS created beings were ever to know the Laws of Un righteousness. GOD ...[text shortened]... not to. The blame of all of this is on The Devil and Man. Blame the devil. Blame yourself(s)

ok I'll blame me
and I'll even confess..

I started the Punic Wars ,,, and for no reason too.
Just because Im bad.
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21 Mar '05 00:55
......and so, once again, when we have an interesting topic the conversation degrades down to yet another asinine round of the "Is not/Is so" game. I sure hope someone actually thinks this pretense will actually bear fruit ( a pleasant fantasy indeed ).