17 Mar '05 01:28>
Originally posted by blindfaith101Are you just trying to argue with me or what?
Biblical history and "omni" traits of GOD are one and the same
Originally posted by blindfaith101This is the biggest baloney claim ever.
When Lucifer rebelled he took 1/3 of the angels with him. When these angels lost their holy spirits(holiness). They became evil spirits,or some call them demons. CHRIST dealt with them as evil Spirits. So that is what they should be called. But many have been taught to call the demons. The word demon(s) is not found in the translations of today. But ma ...[text shortened]... ound in the early translations of the King James Version and earlier Versions of the Scriptures.
Originally posted by NemesioWell now, I would first state that I hold no greivance with you holding this stance. It is a logical stance indeed.
This is the biggest baloney claim ever.
First of all 'Lucifer' doesn't exist as a Biblical personage. The word
Lucifer is a mistranslation of 'Morning Star' in Isaiah. The Morning
Star refers, as is very clear in that chapter, to the King of Babylon.
As for the claim that 1/3 of the angels were taken by Satan when
he rebelled, this is another ...[text shortened]... n and the idea
that 1/3 of the angels 'fell' is a myth with no Scriptural support.
Nemesio
Originally posted by OmnislashI bring it up because of Blindfaith101's own words to you, that
Well now, I would first state that I hold no greivance with you holding this stance. It is a logical stance indeed.
However...
I would note that there are several metaphors with the "Morning Star" concept. My sons middle name is such for one of these metaphorical reasons (in fact, it is a triple pun in his case, but that's neither here nor there) ...[text shortened]... in the notion a bit though, for curiosity sake. I'll let you know what I find in a few days. 🙂
Originally posted by NemesioAh, I see. Very good sir. I shall resume this discussion with you in a few days then. 🙂
I bring it up because of Blindfaith101's own words to you, that
extra-Biblical sources are risky theological tools. I am observing that
his assertion that Lucifer = Satan is the product of post-NT interpretation
by the Latin Church Fathers (who used the term after the Biblica Vulgata
was 'published'😉. The term did not exist until after this mistran ...[text shortened]... ad about Lucifer when you've done your research. I'd be
interested in reading it.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioIt is nice that you and others have decide that what is wrritten in THE WORD OF GOD, is a myth or has no Scriptural proof. I guess you never understoo that GOD speaks on many levels of understanding.
This is the biggest baloney claim ever.
First of all 'Lucifer' doesn't exist as a Biblical personage. The word
Lucifer is a mistranslation of 'Morning Star' in Isaiah. The Morning
Star refers, as is very clear in that chapter, to the King of Babylon.
As for the claim that 1/3 of the angels were taken by Satan when
he rebelled, this is another ...[text shortened]... n and the idea
that 1/3 of the angels 'fell' is a myth with no Scriptural support.
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioFirst of all The Dead Sea Scrolls, are a interresting read. But remember that THE WORD OF GOD, gives instructions to see if undrestanding is true or not. Does thos other sources of information agree completely with THE WORD OF GOD. If they do not they are false doctrine, are they not?
I bring it up because of Blindfaith101's own words to you, that
extra-Biblical sources are risky theological tools. I am observing that
his assertion that Lucifer = Satan is the product of post-NT interpretation
by the Latin Church Fathers (who used the term after the Biblica Vulgata
was 'published'😉. The term did not exist until after this mistran ...[text shortened]... ad about Lucifer when you've done your research. I'd be
interested in reading it.
Nemesio
Originally posted by blindfaith101Do me a favor. Start a thread titled 'What is the WORD OF GOD?' and give a introductory
First of all The Dead Sea Scrolls, are a interresting read. But remember that THE WORD OF GOD, gives instructions to see if undrestanding is true or not. Does thos other sources of information agree completely with THE WORD OF GOD. If they do not they are false doctrine, are they not?
Originally posted by NemesioNo I have said that any understanding that does not line up completely with THE WORLD OF GOD, is false understanding.
Originally posted by blindfaith101
[b]It is nice that you and others have decide that what is wrritten in THE WORD OF GOD, is a myth or has no Scriptural proof. I guess you never understoo that GOD speaks on many levels of understanding.
YOU are the one asserting that things not written in the Bible are true, not I.
You are making absurd myth ...[text shortened]... (as the word doesn't) and
that he took 1/3 of the angels with him when he 'fell.'
Nemesio[/b]