@eladar saidThat would be sad and maybe even unlucky (for the superstitious among us).
@caesar-salad
You know, if someone would not make my wedding cake I would make one for myself.
But it's a fair question to ask why they didn't just ask friends to bake the cake or go to another shop. Have you explored that further?
Maybe there was a history of other cake-denials behind that? (I don't know.) Maybe there was the pent-up reaction against being a shunned minority, and a sense of trying to open up society for the next generation?
Maybe in some cases we have become a little too balkanized or divided against each other by demographics and beliefs and worldviews, but maybe some good will come out of it when we start to sympathize with each other as equally embattled outsiders, as different but equal. Of course some politicians will continue to play us off each other to get to the magical 51%.
Maybe I could say I commiserate a little with Christians and Muslims who are feeling embattled these days over their anti-gay beliefs, because I know what it feels like to be the shunned and vilified minority, even in my own so-called community.
@caesar-salad saidDude, bake a cake. It is not sad.
That would be sad and maybe even unlucky (for the superstitious among us).
But it's a fair question to ask why they didn't just ask friends to bake the cake or go to another shop. Have you explored that further?
Maybe there was a history of other cake-denials behind that? (I don't know.) Maybe there was the pent-up reaction against being a shunned minority, and ...[text shortened]... know what it feels like to be the shunned and vilified minority, even in my own so-called community.
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@eladar saidPrivately owned, but publicly operated in this case.
@FMF
It could be but not a religious belief that I am aware. As I said it should be a non issue if people are allowed the right to privacy. Privately owned business as defined by not owned by or subsidized directly by the government.
If the bakery wanted to operate underground and only do commerce with Christians via Christian networking, I would be cool with that.
@eladar saidThe question isn't about what you are or aren't aware of.
@FMF
It could be but not a religious belief that I am aware.
The question again: What if a cake maker's religious belief was that mixed-race marriages are "sinful"?
What "religious freedom" should there be - in your view - for a cake maker whose religious belief is that mixed-race marriages are "sinful"?
@caesar-salad removed their quoted postThis has been an often-mentioned theory about Eladar for a decade.
@caesar-salad saidI think this is the key to it: how people can discriminate against certain kinds of people if they want to.
Privately owned, but publicly operated in this case. If the bakery wanted to operate underground and only do commerce with Christians via Christian networking, I would be cool with that.
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@caesar-salad removed their quoted postIt is only a matter of time before Christians are slaughtered for being Christian. Your time is coming but in the end you will not escape your destiny.