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@galveston75

We all know tolerance used by the left does not mean tolerance ot means acceptance of their point of view is required.


tol·er·ance
/ˈtäl(ə)rəns/
noun
noun: tolerance; plural noun: tolerances
1.
the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

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@eladar said
@galveston75

We all know tolerance used by the left does not mean tolerance ot means acceptance of their point of view is required.
Well this actually happened in Portland OR a few years ago. We lived there so it's still fresh. The owners of this bakery had a couple, gay women, that wanted to order a wedding cake.
The owners were very polite and explained they could not do this because of their conscience.
Loooong story short the couple sued them for $135,000 and the shop owners lost their business because of legal fees and other expenses.
So who's rights were violated? Why couldn't the two women who wanted this cake simply walk out of the bakery and go down the street to the next bakery and get their cake there?
Somethings wrong here!!!!!!

https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2017/12/28/oregon-court-upholds-135-000-fine-portion-ruling-against-bakery-owners-gay-wedding-cake-case/985096001/


@galveston75

I think everyone in the nation knows that case.

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@Ghost-of-a-Duke

Sexual orientation isn't a choice. Conversion therapy is a nonsense.


That is what I am talking about. And it depends on what researchers you talk to in getting opinions on whether there is in all cases no choice in sexual attraction.

You will always have different expert views on this.
And I am not going to get into a long debate on it here.

Not every researcher in the field agrees with your view of conversion therapy as nonsense. And don't argue credential-ism because doctors can be black balled and censored if they don't tow the line the status quo dictates that they tow. Don't play the "peer reviewed" card because medical industry can black ball you just like any other industry.

And that some would bend under persuasive sounding propaganda of sexual orientation without exception is not a choice, is expected.

If Cigarette companies could have their experts persuade the public that smoking was beneficial to your health, it is no surprise that the Gay Agenda can have their chosen experts argue for the protection of their movement.


@eladar said
@galveston75

I think everyone in the nation knows that case.
Could be....

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@caesar-salad removed their quoted post
Nice way of saying you are not allowed to live by your beliefs if you want to make money. Communism's Godless Society is alive and well in the US and other Western countries.

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@galveston75 said
Well this actually happened in Portland OR a few years ago. We lived there so it's still fresh. The owners of this bakery had a couple, gay women, that wanted to order a wedding cake.
The owners were very polite and explained they could not do this because of their conscience.
Loooong story short the couple sued them for $135,000 and the shop owners lost their busine ...[text shortened]... gon-court-upholds-135-000-fine-portion-ruling-against-bakery-owners-gay-wedding-cake-case/985096001/
What if the cake was for an African-American groom and Caucasian bride? Should the cake makers have a right to refuse service because they hold the belief that mixed-race weddings are morally wrong?


@eladar said
Nice way of saying you are not allowed to live by your beliefs if you want to make money. Communism's Godless Society is alive and well in the US and other Western countries.
Why should Christians want to make money? Does not God provide for the birds in the sky?

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@galveston75 said
So is this for everyone to comment on or just those who you agree with?
Everyone.


@eladar said
Do you allow that the person might actually want help because the person believes such actions are immoral and wrong?
Yes. Do you have an answer to my question?


@eladar said
Nice way of saying you are not allowed to live by your beliefs if you want to make money. Communism's Godless Society is alive and well in the US and other Western countries.
Also, if Christians and Lesbians do agree that making money is good, if the Lesbians get a nice tax break by getting married, shouldn't the Christian be happy to bake a cake for them in celebration of that?


@eladar said
Do you allow that the person might actually want help because the person believes such actions are immoral and wrong?
Of course. I have met self-loathing homosexuals. But your question doesn't answer the OP question.