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Originally posted by jaywillNo, you just did not understand his question.
Maybe next time you can preface your question with:
"I don't really want to know anything, but ..."
Originally posted by jaywillWhy not?
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The duplicate I am talking about is immediate and literal. We have Jesus A, divine according to Christians. Then He is biologically duplicated. So now Jesus B comes into existence. Is he (He?) also divine?
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Originally posted by jaywillWow, I do not think even one of those reasons actually addresses Pawno's hypothetical. It's a hypothetical, jaywill. We suppose that some exact physical duplicate of Jesus has come into being, it really doesn't matter how it comes into being (maybe humans created the duplicate, or maybe God or Jesus himself created the exact physical duplicate, or maybe some atoms just somehow self-assembled into an exact physical duplicate of Jesus, or maybe the duplicate just popped into existence under no explanation -- who cares how it comes into existence). The question is, is the exact physical duplicate (or the mind thereof or whatever may emerge from the physical substrate) divine? Not one of your numbered responses actually addresses the question.
I think you will find me too verbose for your liking. I wrote too much for your tastes.
I consider this as your question:
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If Jesus's body were physically duplicated in every particular, would the mind, and possibly spirit, attached to the body of the duplicate Jesus be divine also?
============================== as a free gift - would you receive this gift?
Or would you reject this gift ?
Originally posted by jaywillAs LemonJello intimates, it's not the verbosity of your responses that annoys me, but their irrelevance, or at least their tangentiality. It's more important, evidently, that you witness for Christ, than that you address my questions directly. Still, maybe your heart is in the right place.
I think you will find me too verbose for your liking. I wrote too much for your tastes.
Or would you reject this gift ?
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeStill not satisfied with my answers? Yes I do tend to be verbose.
Why not?
Originally posted by jaywillSuppose God created Jesus 1, and He was divine.
Still not satisfied with my answers? Yes I do tend to be verbose.
Consider this, The initial birth of Christ in the virgin woman was a miracle of God. We cannot duplicate the miracle of God.
If you had sample DNA and were able to clone Jesus in some way, it still would not be a duplication of the miracle of the incarnation.
Now don't press me ...[text shortened]... you.
No is my answer. You can't biologically duplicate the incarnation of God into man.
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeI have no opinion to express on that.
Suppose God created Jesus 1, and He was divine.
Then God created Jesus 2, who was a perfect physical duplicate.
And then God annihilated Jesus 1.
Wouldn't Jesus 2 do just as good as Jesus 1 for any purpose, moral or spiritual?
If not, why not?
Don't just assert your opinion; give a reason for it.
Originally posted by jaywillYou know that story birthed the anti-Arab and anti-Muslim movement, right?
Abraham was perhaps the most famous case of a man trying to "help" God with manmade ingenuity.
God promised him a son. Year after year went by and no son could be produced. He and Sarah got older and older.
Finally, enough was enough. Abraham decided to take action and have a son through Hagar the female slave. He produced Ishmael. The rest is histor ...[text shortened]... ere about biologically duplicating Jesus is really a modern day high tech [b]Ishmael idea.[/b]
Originally posted by PawnokeyholeYes.
Suppose God created Jesus 1, and He was divine.
Then God created Jesus 2, who was a perfect physical duplicate.
And then God annihilated Jesus 1.
Wouldn't Jesus 2 do just as good as Jesus 1 for any purpose, moral or spiritual?
If not, why not?
Don't just assert your opinion; give a reason for it.
Originally posted by scherzoI think something like this may have happened.
You know that story birthed the anti-Arab and anti-Muslim movement, right?