1. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    18 Oct '11 05:39
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    What a pity. 😀
    What? that he was worried about his dad rather than the "law"? 😕
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    18 Oct '11 05:40
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    i suspect there is more to what crowley meant. after all, he did write an entire book on it and started a 'secret' society based on its precepts.
    Yes, he tried to give power back to the individual.
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    18 Oct '11 05:431 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Wasn't he that Satanist?
    His number was "666" ,but I doubt he was a "Satanist", he always seemed too egnimatic to let someone else run his life.

    Crowley is hugely misunderstood and to this day I dont know how to spell his name right (The name I have here is "Alleister Crowley", "The Egyptian Tarot" )
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    18 Oct '11 06:06
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    His number was "666" ,but I doubt he was a "Satanist", he always seemed too egnimatic to let someone else run his life.

    Crowley is hugely misunderstood and to this day I dont know how to spell his name right (The name I have here is "Alleister Crowley", "The Egyptian Tarot" )
    The Satanists of today use his teachings as a guide over the Holy Bible.
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    18 Oct '11 06:10
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Satanists of today use his teachings as a guide over the Holy Bible.
    They may well do, but so what?

    The only backward satanists I see getting around are christians or christian influenced. As another poster has pointed out, "Satan" only exists in a christian context.

    There are many better teachings than the bible, sorry to say
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    18 Oct '11 06:14
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    As any Judge will tell you, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse."
    I know that, but it doesn't address my comments. There are reasons for our Justice system, and none of those reasons would apply to a Judgement post death by God, so what are his reasons?
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    18 Oct '11 06:15
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Wasn't he that Satanist?
    he called himself "the great beast" and 666, but that was probably more in jest to the christians of his time who saw everything non-christian as satanist.

    he was into egyptian theology and horus worship. he claims all the information in his "book of the law" came from the god horus through his divine messanger aiwass.

    strange stuff, but no more strange than christian, muslim and buddhist mythologies.
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    18 Oct '11 06:18
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    he called himself "the great beast" and 666, but that was probably more in jest to the christians of his time who saw everything non-christian as satanist.

    he was into egyptian theology and horus worship. he claims all the information in his "book of the law" came from the god horus through his divine messanger aiwass.

    strange stuff, but no more strange than christian, muslim and buddhist mythologies.
    He also had a sense of humour, which seems to allude many christians.
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    18 Oct '11 06:211 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    They may well do, but so what?

    The only backward satanists I see getting around are christians or christian influenced. As another poster has pointed out, "Satan" only exists in a christian context.

    There are many better teachings than the bible, sorry to say
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanis4.htm

    "Modern Satanism is generally (though mistakenly) regarded as a creation
    of Aleister Crowley (1875-1947)."

    I believe this mistake is due to the fact tha some of their teachings are
    identical to his beliefs.
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    18 Oct '11 06:23
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    He also had a sense of humour, which seems to allude many christians.
    Haven't you noticed my sense of humor. 😀
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    18 Oct '11 06:23
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Yes, he tried to give power back to the individual.
    no, not to the individual but to a chosen few. there is something sinister about the book of the law that may require a few passes through the book to understand. you may miss it altogether if you're a crowley fan.

    i chalk it up as interesting but dangerous philosophy and rank it in the same category as ayn randian objectivism.
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    18 Oct '11 06:26
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/satanis4.htm

    "Modern Satanism is generally (though mistakenly) regarded as a creation
    of Aleister Crowley (1875-1947)."

    I believe his mistake is due to the fact tha some of their teachings are
    identical to his beliefs.
    (How) Are christian beliefs and teachings different?


    "Though mistakenly" ...Case closed .
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    18 Oct '11 06:27
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Haven't you noticed my sense of humor. 😀
    Your restrained humour,yes. Very ...um... humourous ... err..somebody else?
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    18 Oct '11 06:30
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    (How) Are christian beliefs and teachings different?


    "Though mistakenly" ...Case closed .
    The only mistake is that he created modern Satanism, you nitwit. 😀
  15. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    18 Oct '11 06:31
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    no, not to the individual but to a chosen few. there is something sinister about the book of the law that may require a few passes through the book to understand. you may miss it altogether if you're a crowley fan.

    i chalk it up as interesting but dangerous philosophy and rank it in the same category as ayn randian objectivism.
    I know what you mean.

    Again, like any other litarature, I will take the positive I find in it, and leave the rest behind. I'm a fan of sorts, but I dont have posters of the guy on my wall , ok.

    There is something sinister about the life we find ourselves in. Beyond just Allestair Crowly ...
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