15 Sep 07
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...the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Is this really the question being asked in a courtroom? 'Cause, I gotta
tell you, that last bit's a bit lame, isn't it? If I'm an atheist, it means crap
to me if God's wrath be upon me or not.
Why not just ask: "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth, and should we catch you lying you'll accept a
proportionally insane and harsh punishment"?
That should do it, me thinks. 😏
15 Sep 07
Originally posted by stockenThe really weird thing is that Jesus specifically tells us not to swear oaths in the New Testament.
...the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Is this really the question being asked in a courtroom? 'Cause, I gotta
tell you, that last bit's a bit lame, isn't it? If I'm an atheist, it means crap
to me if God's wrath be upon me or not.
Why not just ask: "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth ...[text shortened]... ept a
proportionally insane and harsh punishment"?
That should do it, me thinks. 😏
15 Sep 07
Originally posted by stockenonly in america... in portugal it's only "do you swear to tell the truth?", and they explain the legal repercussion that will happen if you lie
...the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Is this really the question being asked in a courtroom? 'Cause, I gotta
tell you, that last bit's a bit lame, isn't it? If I'm an atheist, it means crap
to me if God's wrath be upon me or not.
Why not just ask: "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth ...[text shortened]... ept a
proportionally insane and harsh punishment"?
That should do it, me thinks. 😏
16 Sep 07
Originally posted by stockenHere's how it works in the UK: http://www.cjsonline.gov.uk/juror/walkthrough/the_court/faqs/index.html#2277
...the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Is this really the question being asked in a courtroom? 'Cause, I gotta
tell you, that last bit's a bit lame, isn't it? If I'm an atheist, it means crap
to me if God's wrath be upon me or not.
Why not just ask: "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth ...[text shortened]... ept a
proportionally insane and harsh punishment"?
That should do it, me thinks. 😏
The laws in Germany are quite similar. It would really surprise me if the US doesn't allow atheists to give an affirmation instead of an oath.
16 Sep 07
Originally posted by NordlysAffirmations are allowed if the witness desires for any reason not to swear an oath.
Here's how it works in the UK: http://www.cjsonline.gov.uk/juror/walkthrough/the_court/faqs/index.html#2277
The laws in Germany are quite similar. It would really surprise me if the US doesn't allow atheists to give an affirmation instead of an oath.
17 Sep 07
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Originally posted by stockenSo if there be a God then are you suggesting that he is far more longsuffering and merciful in retaliation to sins such as lying and pergury than the state? After all, when is the last time you got struck by lightning because you lied?
...the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Is this really the question being asked in a courtroom? 'Cause, I gotta
tell you, that last bit's a bit lame, isn't it? If I'm an atheist, it means crap
to me if God's wrath be upon me or not.
Why not just ask: "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth ept a
proportionally insane and harsh punishment"?
That should do it, me thinks. 😏
17 Sep 07
Originally posted by stockenI like that too, because of my religious beliefs on making oaths to God.
...the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Is this really the question being asked in a courtroom? 'Cause, I gotta
tell you, that last bit's a bit lame, isn't it? If I'm an atheist, it means crap
to me if God's wrath be upon me or not.
Why not just ask: "Do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and
nothing but the truth ...[text shortened]... ept a
proportionally insane and harsh punishment"?
That should do it, me thinks. 😏
Kelly
17 Sep 07
Originally posted by AThousandYoungSome of my ancestors were Quakers and I believe they refused to take oaths in court because of what the Bible says.
The really weird thing is that Jesus specifically tells us not to swear oaths in the New Testament.
It just reminds me how silly religious people can get. The Quakers were imprisoned regularly for trying to be more Christian than the Christians who were imprisoning them. Don't forget that the religion is based on love and all that....