1. Riding the Atom Bomb
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    11 Jun '05 21:53
    what do u reckon?
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    11 Jun '05 22:02
    Originally posted by dale21
    what do u reckon?
    since there is no God there is no favorite religion.
  3. The sky
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    11 Jun '05 22:07
    My guess is that he is a Muffin.
  4. Riding the Atom Bomb
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    11 Jun '05 22:08
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    My guess is that he is a Muffin.
    thanx for your intellectual comments 😛
    can he like them all equally?
  5. The sky
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    11 Jun '05 22:39
    Originally posted by dale21
    thanx for your intellectual comments 😛
    can he like them all equally?
    Well, if you are referring to human religions, not what religion he would belong to himself, it obviously depends on what kind of god he is (assuming there is a god). The god of people like blindfaith or dj2 clearly has a preference for a small group of Christians. But I would rather assume that a god who creates beings with a mind would like them to use their minds, and xe would enjoy all the different ideas they come up with. I'd guess xe might not be very happy with people who choose not to use their minds (thus kind of rejecting xyr gift) and rather choose blind faith, although xe might find that interesting, too.
  6. Donationkirksey957
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    11 Jun '05 22:42
    Originally posted by dale21
    what do u reckon?
    I think God is humanist.
  7. Riding the Atom Bomb
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    11 Jun '05 22:51
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    I think God is humanist.
    explain if you will
  8. Donationkirksey957
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    11 Jun '05 22:55
    Originally posted by dale21
    explain if you will
    I was having a moment of Zen. It is best left unexplained.
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    11 Jun '05 23:10
    Originally posted by kirksey957
    I was having a moment of Zen. It is best left unexplained.
    Moses and the Shepherd


    Moses heard a shepherd on the road praying,
    "God, Where are you? I want to help you, to fix your shoes
    and comb your hair. I want to wash your clothes
    and pick the lice off. I want to bring you milk
    to kiss your little hands and feet when it's time
    for you to go to bed. I want to sweep your room
    and keep it neat. God, my sheep and goats
    are yours. All I can say, remembering you,
    is ayyyy and ahhhhhhhh."

    Moses could stand it no longer.
    "Who are you talking to?"

    "The one who made us,
    and made the earth and the sky."

    "Don't talk about shoes
    and socks with God! And what's this with your little hands
    and feet? Such blasphemous familiarity sounds like
    you're chatting with your uncles.
    Only something that grows needs milk.
    Only someone with feet needs shoes. Not God!

    Even if you meant God's human representatives,
    as when God said, 'I was sick and you did not visit me,'
    even then this tone would be foolish and irreverent."

    The shepherd repented and tore his clothes and sighed
    and wandered into the desert.

    A sudden revelation
    came then to Moses.

    God's voice:

    You have separated me from one of my own.
    Did you come as a Prophet to unite, or to sever?

    I have given each being a separate and unique way
    of seeing and knowing and saying that knowledge.
    What seems wrong for you is right for him.
    What is poisonous to one is honey to someone else.

    Purity and impurity, sloth and diligence in worship,
    these mean nothing to me.

    I am apart from all that.
    Ways of worshipping are not to be ranked as better
    or worse than one another.

    Hindus do Hindu things.
    the Dravidian Muslims in India do what they do.
    It's all praise, and it's all right.
    It's not me that's glorified in acts of worship.
    It's the worshipers! I don't hear the words
    they say. I look inside at the humility.

    That broken-open lowliness is the reality,
    not the language! Forget phraseology.
    I want burning, burning.

    Be friends with your burning.
    Burn up your thinking
    and your forms of expression!

    Moses,
    those who pay attention to ways of behaving
    and speaking are one sort.
    Lovers who burn are another.

    Don't impose a property tax
    on a burned-out village. Don't scold the Lover.
    The "wrong" way his talks is better than a hundred
    "right" ways of others.

    Inside the Kaaba
    it doesn't matter which direction you point
    your prayer rug!

    The ocean diver doesn't need snowshoes!
    The love-religion has not code or doctrine.

    Only God.

    So the ruby has nothing engraved on it!
    It doesn't need markings."

    God began speaking deeper mysteries to Moses.
    Vision and words, which cannot be recorded here,
    poured into and through him.
    He left himself and came back.
    He went to eternity and came back here.
    Many times this happened.

    It's foolish of me
    to try and say this. If I did say it,
    it would uproot human intelligences.
    It would shatter all writing pens.

    Moses ran after the shepherd.
    He followed the bewildered footprints,
    in one place moving straight like a castle
    across a chessboard. In another, sideways,
    like a bishop.

    Now surging like a wave cresting,
    now sliding down like a fish,
    with always his feet
    making geomancy symbols in the sand,
    recording his wandering state.

    Moses finally caught up with him.

    "I was wrong. God has revealed to me
    that there are no rules for worship.
    Say whatever and however your loving tells you to.
    Your sweet blasphemy is the truest devotion.
    Through you a whole world is freed.

    Loosen your tongue and don't worry what comes out,
    It's all the light of the spirit."

    The shepherd replied,

    "Moses, Moses, I've gone beyond even that.
    You applied the whip and my horse shied and jumped on itself.
    The divine nature of my human nature came together.

    Bless your scolding hand and your arm.
    I can't say what has happened.

    What I'm saying now is not my real condition.
    It can't be said."

    The shepherd grew quiet.

    When you look in a mirror,
    you see yourself, not the state of the mirror.
    The flute player puts breath into the flute,
    and who makes the music? Not the flute,
    The flute player!

    Whenever you speak praise
    or thanksgiving to God, it's always like
    this dear shepherd's simplicity.

    When you eventually see
    through the veils to how things really are,
    you will keep saying again
    and again,

    "This is certanly not like
    we thought it was!"

    Rumi

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    11 Jun '05 23:19
    Originally posted by bbarr
    [b]Moses and the Shepherd


    Moses heard a shepherd on the road praying,
    "God, Where are you? I want to help you, to fix your shoes
    and comb your hair. I want to wash your clothes
    and pick the lice off. I want to bring you milk
    to kiss your little hands and feet when it's time
    for you to go to bed. I want to sweep your room
    and keep it neat ...[text shortened]... eep saying again
    and again,

    "This is certanly not like
    we thought it was!"

    Rumi

    [/b]
    In response to that I can only say "thank you".
  11. Not Kansas
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    12 Jun '05 02:07
    Originally posted by bbarr
    [b]Moses and the Shepherd


    Moses heard a shepherd on the road praying,
    "God, Where are you? I want to help you, to fix your shoes
    and comb your hair. I want to wash your clothes
    and pick the lice off. I want to bring you milk
    to kiss your little hands and feet when it's time
    for you to go to bed. I want to sweep your room
    and keep it neat ...[text shortened]... eep saying again
    and again,

    "This is certanly not like
    we thought it was!"

    Rumi

    [/b]
    Excellent!
  12. London
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    12 Jun '05 20:52
    Originally posted by dale21
    what do u reckon?
    I reckon - Catholicism (well? what did you expect me to say?)

    But seriously, the answer to your question depends on which kind of God you're referring to.
  13. Meddling with things
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    12 Jun '05 20:56
    Originally posted by dale21
    what do u reckon?
    Yes. According to the jesus cult bible god chooses the jews which means you jesus cult folks are well stuffed.
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    12 Jun '05 21:06
    You cannot answer that question objectively. The more objective religions (Budhism, Spiritualists, some Hindi) will say that yes, he loves them all equally.

    The more stilted religions (Islam, Christianity) would say that there is only 1 God and is of their nation i.e. "The God of Abrahjam"

    So it depends where you stand. Some would disbelieve god as a whole e.g. your first answer.
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    12 Jun '05 21:29
    Originally posted by kaijin
    You cannot answer that question objectively. The more objective religions (Budhism, Spiritualists, some Hindi) will say that yes, he loves them all equally.
    Classical Buddhism does not posit an answer to whether God exists in the first place. However, I would be extremely curious to know if the God in the "objective religions" finds the Aztec religion and certain Kali sects in India (both of which practise/used to practice human sacrifice) "equally" pleasing.
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