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    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious? I get the impression many atheists think of those who are religious as weak minded and of less than desirable intellect. I also get the impression from many christians that increased intellect often translates into increased faith in God.
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    06 Apr '06 01:18
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious?
    I doubt it.
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    06 Apr '06 01:44
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious? I get the impression many atheists think of those who are religious as weak minded and of less than desirable intellect. I also get the impression from many christians that increased intellect often translates into increased faith in God.
    Some definitions are called for here:

    1) Level of intelligence - who measures? How?

    2) Degree of religiosity? In whose eyes?

    3) God... surely you jest?

    4) Faith... Is she a singer?

    5) Increased christian intellect... Gimme a break! 😛
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    06 Apr '06 01:53
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious? I get the impression many atheists think of those who are religious as weak minded and of less than desirable intellect. I also get the impression from many christians that increased intellect often translates into increased faith in God.
    All christians are stupid. Except for the ones who are smart.
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    06 Apr '06 03:56
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious? I get the impression many atheists think of those who are religious as weak minded and of less than desirable intellect. I also get the impression from many christians that increased intellect often translates into increased faith in God.
    No. They are uncorrelated in levels, however belief in God is strongly negatively correlated in logs.

    If you don't get this, then go ask your pastor, or better yet, pray about it.
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    Some of the world's greatest thinkers have been religious. Others of the world's greatest thinkers have been atheists.

    There have been stupid people in both camps.

    Then there are the fundies of all persuasions who choose dogma rather than think for thenselves.
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    06 Apr '06 08:47
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious? I get the impression many atheists think of those who are religious as weak minded and of less than desirable intellect. I also get the impression from many christians that increased intellect often translates into increased faith in God.
    Atheists do not believe that theists are less intelligent- just fundamentalists and creationists.

    There's a difference.
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    06 Apr '06 08:56
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Atheists do not believe that theists are less intelligent- just fundamentalists and creationists.

    There's a difference.
    Agreed, I know a lot of very intelligent theists, but not a single creationist I have ever met has come across as anything more than a moron.
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    06 Apr '06 10:32
    Originally posted by Starrman
    Agreed, I know a lot of very intelligent theists, but not a single creationist I have ever met has come across as anything more than a moron.
    That reminds me. I was accosted four days ago in the city by a born again christian. He gave me this coin with the ten commandments inscribed on it and he explained how "God punishes us for our evil just as we punish thieves". Looking for an argument I told him there was no free will so God is being unreasonable. If God is unreasonable then he musn't exist.

    I dont think he liked me after just 20 minutes of conversation- 😏.
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    06 Apr '06 10:54
    Originally posted by whodey
    Does the level of intelligence correlate with the degree to which one is religious? I get the impression many atheists think of those who are religious as weak minded and of less than desirable intellect. I also get the impression from many christians that increased intellect often translates into increased faith in God.
    I beleive there is some correlation between higher education and reliousity. I believe that the proportion of atheists amoungst degree holders is higher than amoungst non-degree holders. However one would also have to check income levels etc to confirm whether it is the education and not some other factor at play here.
    Cirtainly most scientists are not creationist but the question then is whether creationists avoid science or whether only those with lack of scientific ability become creationist.
    What I do no is that most people of average or even slightly above average intelligence are perfectly capable of holding totally irrational views. Many facets of slavery, racism, denial of AIDS and issues surrounding infidellity for example, often seem totally irrational to the rest of us and yet are engaged in by people who otherwise seem reasonably intelligent.
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    06 Apr '06 11:50
    Originally posted by rwingett
    All christians are stupid. Except for the ones who are smart.
    🙂)
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    06 Apr '06 11:53
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    That reminds me. I was accosted four days ago in the city by a born again christian. He gave me this coin with the ten commandments inscribed on it and he explained how "God punishes us for our evil just as we punish thieves". Looking for an argument I told him there was no free will so God is being unreasonable. If God is unreasonable then he musn't exist.

    I dont think he liked me after just 20 minutes of conversation- 😏.
    I love the ones that give you a special coin or something 'as a gift' and then talk to you for ten minutes before asking for a donation. When you don't give them one, they take their 'gift' back again.
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    06 Apr '06 12:23
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I beleive there is some correlation between higher education and reliousity. I believe that the proportion of atheists amoungst degree holders is higher than amoungst non-degree holders. However one would also have to check income levels etc to confirm whether it is the education and not some other factor at play here.
    Cirtainly most scientists are not c ...[text shortened]... al to the rest of us and yet are engaged in by people who otherwise seem reasonably intelligent.
    So you do not think that intelligence and rationality are correlated.
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    06 Apr '06 12:33
    Originally posted by Conrau K
    Atheists do not believe that theists are less intelligent- just fundamentalists and creationists.

    There's a difference.
    Perhaps this is because creationists refer to Genesis and you do not think that Genesis can correlate with science. There is a problem here, however. The Bible is not book of science, and likewise science does not contemplate religion. Both come at you from two different angles and therefore, it would be easy to assume one or the other must be right and the other wrong. To get a "coming together" of the two I suggest you hear someone who is somewhat of an expert in both the Biblical account of Genesis and of science and not listen to someone who is an expert in only one of the fields. Go to this site

    http://www.worshipradio.com/home/ZolaVideo.html

    A man by the name of Dr. Gerald Schroeder is both a Physicist and somewhat of a theologin. It is a rare combination and is one worthy of hearing. Just scroll down to the six days of creation and listen to the video. Be warned, however, the video is a little long. After all, there is a lot of material to cover. Tell me what you think.
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