15 Dec '06 20:15>
Originally posted by knightmeisterI don't think you bother to read what other people write. I'm not a "determinist" at all; where did you get such a bizarre idea? Where did you get the idea that I thought free will was impossible? You make up this crap as you go along.
I didn't say that I was a determinist I was just presenting the determinists' argument. Presumably you are a determinist? You probably are because you think free will impossible. I was using your own argument against you and now you turn round and argue against it as if it's my argument??
So for the record , I am not a hard determinist. If you are ...[text shortened]... ssible is not reasonable or logical by the high standards of logic you set for yourself.
But IF there is an entity that exists at all points in time and IF that entity is also omniscient (i.e. "all knowing"😉, then it MUST HAVE, BY DEFINITION, always have been incapable of doing anything but what it did AND it also MUST be aware of that fact. Thus, it is impossible for a entity with the attributes YOU HAVE GIVEN IT, to have "free will" in ANY sense.