Originally posted by galveston75
I'm not trying to be rude so don't take it that way but do you not watch the news, read the newspaper or listen to events that are happening worldwide on a daily basis?
I don't watch the news a lot, but when I do, I am not convinced that events now are any more significant than those in the past. When I challenged you earlier in the thread you seemed to change your stance to include the world wars and before. So I am really not sure now which periods I am supposed to be comparing.
But in general, I would say that the world is a safer place now than in my fathers time.
Do you think otherwise? If so, do you have more than your feeling from news reports to go on? Are you perhaps watching a different tv station from me?
Do you not see the degrading of morals and what people accept now as opposed to just a few decades ago?
I wasn't here a few decades ago so its very hard to judge. However, certain types of morals like prostitution, illegitimate children etc seem to have been quite prevalent in the past. AIDS spread through Africa in the 80's and 90's which is a few decades ago.
Things that are accepted today would have never been spoken of in any morally conscience setting not that many years ago.
Well maybe you are not in a morally conscious setting now. Give me more details about these 'morally conscious' settings you are talking about.
Music, movies, TV? Has it not changed in it's morals?
The Hollywood ones, yes I would say so. But I like to watch Chinese soapies which have much stricter moral standards.
Another sign Jesus gave was wars and reports of wars. Can you tell me the number of days, not weeks or months but days that there have not been a war of some type on our planet since WW1 started?
Can you list for me the days before WW1 started?
Can you refer me to a graph or chart showing frequencies of wars, or is this another 'gut feel' thing.
Again........Jesus said "discernment" is what one would need to see and understand what he said and what would be needed to see these things. Do you understand at all what that means?
No. I cant understand how you can count wars differently from me. Do you have access to information I don't? Are you unable to send me that information because of this 'discernment'? I honestly do not understand why one needs some special attributes to count wars, earthquakes, average age ratings on TV series or even promiscuity or other measures of morality.
Now this does not mean at all that a person that misses this point is bad or wicked or does not care. It simply means that for whatever reason, such as being too busy and consumed by a career for example, that one has not taken the time and effort to ponder and research an issue such as this.
For someone who claims to have taken the time and effort to ponder and research you seem to have remarkably flimsy evidence. So far you have given me nothing but here say and hints. You don't even state that wars have increased or morals have got measurably worse, instead you hint at it by asking me question.
And the Bible makes it clear that if one is searching for this insight, God will let them see it and get the meaning of it's importance.
But surely if you have seen it, you can pass it on? Or is there a no-copy clause that prevents you from giving me a war graph?