Evangelical Christians

Originally posted by @thinkofone
You seem to have missed the author's point which is that many of the views held by many Evangelicals are contrary to the gospel preached by Jesus. Whatever rationalizations they may make up for themselves do not change this fact.

You mean the gospel where many people are not forgiven and only a few are forgiven?

Originally posted by @eladar
You mean the gospel where many people are not forgiven and only a few are forgiven?

Why are you asking this question of me?

What does it have to do with the topic of this thread?

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
It's actually a very easy explanation... You can learn it easily by spending a few hours familiarizing yourself with the ideas of 'Christian reconstructionalism' or 'dominionism.'

It's amazing to think that people will spend years complaining about superconservative Evangelicals but they won't take like 2-3 hours to read some of the essays by Gar ...[text shortened]... he one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.""

I'd love to see liberals unpack this for us.

Yup.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Regardless of how well you think you explained it, it does not address the author's point which is that many of the views held by many Evangelicals are contrary to the gospel preached by Jesus.

Is it as the author summarized?:
[quote]Of course, conservative Americans have every right to support corporate greed, militarism, gun possession, and the dea ...[text shortened]... itutions" they are justified in holding views that are contrary to the gospel preached by Jesus?

But that's the thing. Even the quote you provided is incredibly loaded -- did Jesus preach for gun control, universal health care, and said that we needed to take a stand against corporate greed? Of course not! That is the interpretation of people on the Left.

I will not comment on the accuracy of the claim. Instead, I'll say that such a claim is valid and can be theologically justified. Having such views is not against Christian views.

Likewise, believing that it is Christian to eschew earthly authority and prefer a radically Libertarian government while being a Christian can be completely in line with Christian theology as well.

Do you see what I mean?

How are they rejecting he gospel by rejecting the corporate welfare state?

That is just as baseless of an accusation as saying that liberals reject the gospel because they embrace the welfare state.

Originally posted by @thinkofone
Why are you asking this question of me?

What does it have to do with the topic of this thread?

The belief that Jesus is all about being accepting and forgiving.

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
Likewise, believing that it is Christian to eschew earthly authority and prefer a radically Libertarian government while being a Christian can be completely in line with Christian theology as well.

Now, is that a real, true Libertarian government (AKA anarchy), or is that a Sears Libertarian government (AKA American Libertarian Party)?

Christianity has (or should have) nothing to do with either one.

I cannot really say what is or what isn't Libertarianism as a non-Libertarian.

But, regardless of what we think, if something is intellecutally consistent with the Gospels and not explicitly prohibited with the Gospels, what business do we have saying that it is not Christian?

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
I cannot really say what is or what isn't Libertarianism as a non-Libertarian.

But, regardless of what we think, if something is intellecutally consistent with the Gospels and not explicitly prohibited with the Gospels, what business do we have saying that it is not Christian?

The problem with (or OF) Libertarianism is that it has to be enforced, which replaces it with Totalitarianism.

Originally posted by @js357
The problem with (or OF) Libertarianism is that it has to be enforced, which replaces it with Totalitarianism.

In the US libertarians are people who don't want to pay taxes but do want to do drugs.

Originally posted by @js357
The problem with (or OF) Libertarianism is that it has to be enforced, which replaces it with Totalitarianism.

Well, that's quite the audacious claim. Not really a "spiritual" topic, though.

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
I cannot really say what is or what isn't Libertarianism as a non-Libertarian.

But, regardless of what we think, if something is intellecutally consistent with the Gospels and not explicitly prohibited with the Gospels, what business do we have saying that it is not Christian?

Because lying is not Christian.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" -- Matthew 7:16, KJV

Originally posted by @suzianne
Because lying is not Christian.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" -- Matthew 7:16, KJV

So what political party should a Christian vote?

Originally posted by @jacob-verville
But that's the thing. Even the quote you provided is incredibly loaded -- did Jesus preach for gun control, universal health care, and said that we needed to take a stand against corporate greed? Of course not! That is the interpretation of people on the Left.

I will not comment on the accuracy of the claim. Instead, I'll say that such a claim is ...[text shortened]... an accusation as saying that liberals reject the gospel because they embrace the welfare state.

Even the quote you provided is incredibly loaded -- did Jesus preach for gun control, universal health care, and said that we needed to take a stand against corporate greed? Of course not!

I guess that's the level at which they operate.

It's akin to a 5-year-old being told he had to share his toys with his younger sister, refusing to share his Legos and then protesting, "But you didn't say I had to share my Legos".

I will not comment on the accuracy of the claim. Instead, I'll say that such a claim is valid and can be theologically justified.

I guess that's the level at which you operate.

Originally posted by @eladar
So what political party should a Christian vote?

Christians vote for whoever they want.
But the elect of God abstains from voting.

Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
Well, that's quite the audacious claim. Not really a "spiritual" topic, though.

Sorry.😛