1. Standard membergalveston75
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    26 Jan '13 02:47
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The virus does adapt to circumstances and environment very well, don't you think? But perhaps not as the Evil-lutionist hope.
    Sure they do. They want to survive too. But they are still a virus and always will be.
    No virus seen by anyone in any microscope is sproutung wings or eyes or legs.
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    26 Jan '13 02:50
    Originally posted by FMF
    Do you urge those of us who think that the human condition is improving, and the world is a better place - all in all - than it was in the past, to thank Jehovah for the progress that has been made?
    No evidence that his is helping humans along on any large scale as you are implying. He is helping ones along spiritually that want it but the bible his word says all men fall short and all suffer.
    Can you show he is?
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    26 Jan '13 03:08
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Sure they do. They want to survive too. But they are still a virus and always will be.
    No virus seen by anyone in any microscope is sproutung wings or eyes or legs.
    Of course not, that would be Evil-lution. 😏
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    26 Jan '13 09:02
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    we are told god created all living things. it stands to reason then that he created sexually transmitted viruses. so where did they live in the beginning? the only conclusion i can draw is that adam and eve had gammy love organs. no wonder they rebelled against god.
    Perhaps they evolved from the primordial Eden soup and Eve unwittingly drank some of it whilst taking a mud bath.

    Try to have an open mind.
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    26 Jan '13 12:42
    Originally posted by galveston75
    Sure they do. They want to survive too. But they are still a virus and always will be.
    No virus seen by anyone in any microscope is sproutung wings or eyes or legs.
    so you believe that living things can adapt?
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    26 Jan '13 12:49
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    so you believe that living things can adapt?
    The point that he is making is that adaptation, is not transmutation. Adaptation can be empirically demonstrated, transmutation has never been demonstrated.
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    26 Jan '13 14:23
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    The point that he is making is that adaptation, is not transmutation. Adaptation can be empirically demonstrated, transmutation has never been demonstrated.
    Transmutation of species went out of fashion as a theory 150 years ago. It's hardly likely to be empirically demonstrated.
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    26 Jan '13 14:40
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    The point that he is making is that adaptation, is not transmutation. Adaptation can be empirically demonstrated, transmutation has never been demonstrated.
    what are the limitations on adaption? if an creature cannot evolve into a different species. then there are limits on what physical changes can occur. what are the limitations and who or what controls them? also what is the purpose of god giving creatures a limited ability to adapt?
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    26 Jan '13 15:45
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    what are the limitations on adaption? if an creature cannot evolve into a different species. then there are limits on what physical changes can occur. what are the limitations and who or what controls them? also what is the purpose of god giving creatures a limited ability to adapt?
    "also what is the purpose of god giving creatures a limited ability to adapt?"

    I'll give this one a shot.
    As you know many many species have not survived and are gone. As you are sayng here, many could not adapt to their surroundings for many reasons, many of which we just don't know why they couldn't.
    Look at us humans now as most of us would die if dropped off at the north pole would be dead within a couple hours if not given the right supplies.
    That is not our normal inviroment to live in and it would show very quickly.

    God originaly created the whole earth to be inhabited as the bible stated and as scientist have discovered with burried tropical vegatation in the much colder latitudes. Mammoths have been uncovered with this still in their mouths.
    The earth originally was like a green house with the cloud canopy that covered the entire planet just as the Bible explains.
    God also created every living thing to prosper and mulitiply and cover the entire earth with their offspring.
    So within this arrangment by God no species had to adapt. The whole earth would have been liveable by all life forms.
    Sure there may have been slight temp changes between the equator and the poles and this is why God did create within all living beings the ability to adapt within reason and with boundries to survive any changes that might be presented within it's life.
    But the flood caused drastic changes to the planet on many levels and many species could not adapt to that and even today most life can only live within certian areas and conditions or they will die.

    Darwin freeked out when he saw the different beaks the finches had at the Galápagos Islands within the same species and said this proved evolution.
    No it didn't in the least. It was that God given ability for this bird to adapt to fit it's surroundings. But it is a finch and has always been a finch and will always be a finch.
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    26 Jan '13 15:50
    Creationists in multi-story car parks...

    Wrong on so many levels.
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    26 Jan '13 15:51
    Originally posted by galveston75
    "also what is the purpose of god giving creatures a limited ability to adapt?"

    I'll give this one a shot.
    As you know many many species have not survived and are gone. As you are sayng here, many could not adapt to their surroundings for many reasons, many of which we just don't know why they couldn't.
    Look at us humans now as most of us would d ...[text shortened]... surroundings. But it is a finch and has always been a finch and will always be a finch.
    you didnt answer the question - why give creature a limited ability to adapt?
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    26 Jan '13 15:53
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    you didnt answer the question - why give creature a limited ability to adapt?
    so that it can adapt.
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    26 Jan '13 16:011 edit
    Originally posted by galveston75
    "also what is the purpose of god giving creatures a limited ability to adapt?"

    I'll give this one a shot.
    As you know many many species have not survived and are gone. As you are sayng here, many could not adapt to their surroundings for many reasons, many of which we just don't know why they couldn't.
    Look at us humans now as most of us would d surroundings. But it is a finch and has always been a finch and will always be a finch.
    on a side note. could you tell me more about the mammoth with tropical food in its mouth? what type of tropical food? why was the mammoth so....woolly if it lived in a tropical environment?
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    26 Jan '13 16:09
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    you didnt answer the question - why give creature a limited ability to adapt?
    Yes I did answer your question. Very clearly in fact.
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    26 Jan '13 16:13
    Originally posted by stellspalfie
    on a side note. could you tell me more about the mammoth with tropical food in its mouth? what type of tropical food? why was the mammoth so....woolly if it lived in a tropical environment?
    Just a search of a few minutes online should help you find this out.
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