Originally posted by wolfgang59I'm giving you answers based on biblical facts and explinations of the creation of earth and man from the Bible. I'm not an expert on any of the subjects because I was not there and had no scientific labs to study what any microscopic life did at that time either good or bad.
So if the pathogens we have today have not evolved from something else what was their habitat in Adam & Eve's time?
a reminder of your previous post:
Being perfect they were immune from any sickness and diseases.
But it is a fact that if man from the very beginning had remaind faithful to God they would have remained pefect in health to this day and no matter what organisms live on this planet and why they were created by God, they all have a purpose and man would have never been affected by them in the way we see today.
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Originally posted by galveston75Right on!
I'm giving you answers based on biblical facts and explinations of the creation of earth and man from the Bible. I'm not an expert on any of the subjects because I was not there and had no scientific labs to study what any microscopic life did at that time either good or bad.
But it is a fact that if man from the very beginning had remaind faithful to ...[text shortened]... hey all have a purpose and man would have never been affected by them in the way we see today.
Everything on Earth groans because of that, says the HolyBible.
For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
(Romans 8:19-22 NKJV)
Yahshua is your friend. He is our friend.
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Originally posted by galveston75no deal galvy baby, just poking a bit of gentle fun at you and robbie. i wasnt exactly being mean was i? its not like i used the kind of insults your good friend robbie throws around is it? do you approve when he insults or makes fun of people?
I'm giving you answers based on biblical facts and explinations of the creation of earth and man from the Bible. I'm not an expert on any of the subjects because I was not there and had no scientific labs to study what any microscopic life did at that time either good or bad.
But it is a fact that if man from the very beginning had remaind faithful to ...[text shortened]... hey all have a purpose and man would have never been affected by them in the way we see today.
Originally posted by stellspalfieNo I guess not but I just get tired of the combacks and insults instead of some serious and decent discussions.
no deal galvy baby, just poking a bit of gentle fun at you and robbie. i wasnt exactly being mean was i? its not like i used the kind of insults your good friend robbie throws around is it? do you approve when he insults or makes fun of people?
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Originally posted by galveston75i dont mind a bit of humorous, light-hearted banter. but i agree and it shouldnt be used to corrupt or side track serious debate. if you want to tell me why god would limit an animals ability to adapt, ill put my serious hat on for a bit.
No I guess not but I just get tired of the combacks and insults instead of some serious and decent discussions.
Originally posted by stellspalfieGod wants the creation he made to remain that kind of creation. He wants a bird to remain a bird and a monkey to remain a monkey. But he also wants them to be able to survive and has allowed a limited amout of adaption for that purpose. God made mankind with certain characteristic that God has that no other creature can gain through adaptation. That is just the way God wants it and no one knows the mind of God and knows His secrets, because He did not make them capable of being all-knowing.
i dont mind a bit of humorous, light-hearted banter. but i agree and it shouldnt be used to corrupt or side track serious debate. if you want to tell me why god would limit an animals ability to adapt, ill put my serious hat on for a bit.
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Originally posted by RJHindswhen does a monkey stop being a monkey?
God wants the creation he made to remain that kind of creation. He wants a bird to remain a bird and a monkey to remain a monkey. But he also wants them to be able to survive and has allowed a limited amout of adaption for that purpose. God made mankind with certain characteristic that God has that no other creature can gain through adaptation. That is j ...[text shortened]... not make them capable of being all-knowing.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieThe monkey stops being a monkey only after the monkey dies and decays and the elements from which it was made returns to the ground. The monkey will never evolve into man, because God did not make it with that capability. No creature ever evolves into a higher, more complex life form, it can only adapt within the kind of creature it is already.
when does a monkey stop being a monkey?
P.S. Evil-lution does not work, it is a scientific myth.
Originally posted by galveston75You must have misunderstood my question. Either that or you sidestepped it on purpose. I am not asking you about your personal pessimistic end-is-nigh perspective on the world. I am asking about those who, unlike you, think that there is plenty of evidence that the human condition is improving and that the world is a better place - when all is weighed up - than it was in the past. Do you urge such optimistic and positive people to thank Jehovah for the progress that has been made?
No evidence that his is helping humans along on any large scale as you are implying. He is helping ones along spiritually that want it but the bible his word says all men fall short and all suffer.
Can you show he is?
Originally posted by stellspalfieI don't find that treating a Christians religious beliefs by reducing it to references to sexually transmitted diseases or stating as others have done that God has a penis as being particularly amusing, nor subtle, nor funny, then again, i suspect that we share different values. Then again I am constantly astounded as to what passes for spirituality on this forum, if it is the best you can do, then its the best you can do, but I would be pleased if when you made reference to my behaviour you direct your assertions to me personally instead of bitching about it to others. Thanks in advance - Robbie.
no deal galvy baby, just poking a bit of gentle fun at you and robbie. i wasnt exactly being mean was i? its not like i used the kind of insults your good friend robbie throws around is it? do you approve when he insults or makes fun of people?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDoes this mean we will see no more of your little dialogues with galveston75 "bitching" about other posters?
I would be pleased if when you made reference to my behaviour you direct your assertions to me personally instead of bitching about it to others. Thanks in advance - Robbie.
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Originally posted by FMFAre greed and corruption, wars and ethnic strife, exploitation and oppression, injustice and inequality still evident? will you please state why such should be construed as progress or perhaps we shall continue to express a positive aspect by considering golden unicorns jumping over ruby encrusted rainbows as progress and deride anything contrary to our human utopia as being doom laden - thanks in advance.
You must have misunderstood my question. Either that or you sidestepped it on purpose. I am not asking you about your personal pessimistic end-is-nigh perspective on the world. I am asking about those who, unlike you, think that there is plenty of evidence that the human condition is improving and that the world is a better place - when all is weighed up - than ...[text shortened]... u urge such optimistic and positive people to thank Jehovah for the progress that has been made?
Originally posted by FMFall references to me personally will be ignored, please print that on a piece of paper for future reference, why you seem unable or unwilling to accept the fact could be construed as arrogance or an inability to comprehend a simple statement, or it may be something more sinister, either way, please stop it - thanks in advance.
Does this mean we will see no more of your little dialogues with galveston75 "bitching" about other posters?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI have not said anything about a "utopia". There's plenty of evidence of progress in the fields of health, more sophisticated preventative health care, disease control, longer life spans, the spread of education and literacy, justice and democracy, the rolling back of tyranny, there are less wars involving less people than in the past, there is evidence that society is less violent, there is the burgeoning of civil society, of community empowerment, discrimination against women is being gradually rolled back, as is domestic violence, more awareness of biodiversity and environmental protection. The list of ways and reasons for being optimistic about the state and the future of the human condition is long, and it has been much discussed here before. It is not enough for you to try to dismiss such things as "unicorns jumping over ruby encrusted rainbow" and then think that your "doom laden" message is vindicated.
Are greed and corruption, wars and ethnic strife, exploitation and oppression, injustice and inequality still evident? will you please state why such should be construed as progress or perhaps we shall continue to express a positive aspect by considering golden unicorns jumping over ruby encrusted rainbow as progress and deride anything contrary to our human utopia as being doom laden - thanks in advance.