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At one point he says "if you're off by a dime in either direction, you get don't a universe that supports life".
The problem with that statement: only one remarkably tiny, infinitesimal nook of the universe is know to even the have the conditions so support life...let even has life.
If the universe is designed, you'd expect the conditions for life to exist everywhere; it doesn't. Why would anyone purposely design an infinitely vast wasteland of mostly empty space? The next closest star to us is four light years away; the next closest galaxy is two million light years away.
Except for one unfathomably small mote of dust floating in the everlasting vastness, the universe, as far as we know, doesn't even have the conditions to support life anywhere else.
It's like saying the entire ocean was designed because one lone bacterium was found floating along in the middle of a massive amount of water, on a planet with no other living thing.
@vivify saidDesigned means it was made to look and act like it looks and acts. So the rarity of life shows us how unique this place is, under unique conditions, that have been maintained for as long as life has been here.
At one point he says "if you're off by a dime in either direction, you get don't a universe that supports life".
The problem with that statement: only one remarkably tiny, infinitesimal nook of the universe is know to even the have the conditions so support life...let even has life.
If the universe is designed, you'd expect the conditions for life to exist everywhere ...[text shortened]... d floating along in the middle of a massive amount of water, on a planet with no other living thing.
Thanks for watching it
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@kellyjay saidSo the universe was designed to look like a vast empty void filled with mostly nothing but cold and darkness?
Designed means it was made to look and act like it looks and acts.
the rarity of life shows us how unique this place is
You've directly contradicted the guy in your video who said the universe was designed "to support life".
@vivify saidDive, we know it's you.
So the universe was designed to look like a vast empty void filled with mostly nothing but cold and darkness?
the rarity of life shows us how unique this place is
You've directly contradicted the guy in your video who said the universe was designed "to support life".
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@vivify saidAt one point he says "if you're off by a dime in either direction, you get don't a universe that supports life".
At one point he says "if you're off by a dime in either direction, you get don't a universe that supports life".
The problem with that statement: only one remarkably tiny, infinitesimal nook of the universe is know to even the have the conditions so support life...let even has life.
If the universe is designed, you'd expect the conditions for life to exist everywhere ...[text shortened]... d floating along in the middle of a massive amount of water, on a planet with no other living thing.
This merely shows that life as we know it is contingent, not that anything was designed. If conditions were different, there might still be life, but different to life as we know it.
To say that the universe is "fine tuned" to support life begs the question. It smuggles the conclusion into the premise. Elementary logical fallacy. He may be a fine criminal investigator, but he's a lousy logician.
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If the universe is designed, you'd expect the conditions for life to exist everywhere; it doesn't.
I don't believe that HAS to follow for a number of reasons.
1.) The designer may have wanted to blow your mind knowing that your pride would arise to deny God and account things to accident.
2.) God said "Seek first His kingdom and His righteousness and all thing woiuld be added." In the future if He has need to use it for "His kingdom and His righteousness" He with a coorperative man, is well able to use the "apparently" unsuasable portions. The future use of other parts of the universe may be waiting for a man on earth in harmony with the adminstration of God.
3.) IN nature sometimes "waste" is seen already. Millions of sperm cells are ejected from the male into the female when only ONE is needed to fertilize the egg.
I don't think the "wasted space" rationale evidences that God did not create it all.
Why would anyone purposely design an infinitely vast wasteland of mostly empty space? The next closest star to us is four light years away; the next closest galaxy is two million light years away.
For the reasons I gave above, I do not think the mind blowing uniqueness of life and human beings on THIS planet around THIS star in THIS galaxy at THIS epoch of time argues for the non-existence of the creating God.
Except for one unfathomably small mote of dust floating in the everlasting vastness, the universe, as far as we know, doesn't even have the conditions to support life anywhere else.
The same Designer had millions of sperm cells released when a far fewer number, even just ONE would have been "our style" of doing things. We may not be able to impose that upon God's style.
It's like saying the entire ocean was designed because one lone bacterium was found floating along in the middle of a massive amount of water, on a planet with no other living thing.
There are mysteries unseen and unknown by us. We don't even know all the life that is underground or deep in the ocean. The over all effect is humbling. And we need humbling because we are so pride against the Creator.
"Behold, these are but the outskirts of his ways. How small a whisper do we hear of him! But the thunder of his power who can understand?" (Job 26:19)
It is humbling. Yet Yet love for man is comforting.
In due time God will exalt us if we be humbled under His mighty hand.
I think either way the whole universe was made for man and man was made for God's kingdom of righjteousness, peace, and joy and eternal life.
@sonship saidAgain with the "pride" label. It's as if you feel that us simply not knowing how we originated, and admitting it, is some kind of character flaw.
There are mysteries unseen and unknown by us. We don't even know all the life that is underground or deep in the ocean. The over all effect is humbling. And we need humbling because we are so pride against the Creator.
@vivify saidNo, he and I have both said that the whole is set up for life for this planet. It isn't wasted space when you look at the size and scope of the forces at play; it all plays a part.
So the universe was designed to look like a vast empty void filled with mostly nothing but cold and darkness?
the rarity of life shows us how unique this place is
You've directly contradicted the guy in your video who said the universe was designed "to support life".
@moonbus saidSo your point is that if it is was different, it could be different? Okay, but what may be different isn't a question or answer, is it, what is? The vast majority of the beginning of life or the universe is filled with what if trying to discern what is. I'm not sure what you are saying, if anything.
At one point he says "if you're off by a dime in either direction, you get don't a universe that supports life".
This merely shows that life as we know it is contingent, not that anything was designed. If conditions were different, there might still be life, but different to life as we know it.
To say that the universe is "fine tuned" to support life begs the question. ...[text shortened]... mise. Elementary logical fallacy. He may be a fine criminal investigator, but he's a lousy logician.
@kellyjay saidWhat I'm saying is that all of the speaker's improbable probabilities prove nothing. Life is dependent upon conditions; that is all. Nothing in all of those conditions proves that anyone other than ourselves wanted us to be here. If conditions were different, he seems to imply we wouldn't be here. Well, he's probably right about that; but also, so what. That is no reason why we ARE here; that is no reason why the conditions are what they are.
So your point is that if it is was different, it could be different? Okay, but what may be different isn't a question or answer, is it, what is? The vast majority of the beginning of life or the universe is filled with what if trying to discern what is. I'm not sure what you are saying, if anything.
@moonbus saidYou think he is wrong in saying it’s like this so we are like this?
What I'm saying is that all of the speaker's improbable probabilities prove nothing. Life is dependent upon conditions; that is all. Nothing in all of those conditions proves that anyone other than ourselves wanted us to be here. If conditions were different, he seems to imply we wouldn't be here. Well, he's probably right about that; but also, so what. That is no reason why we ARE here; that is no reason why the conditions are what they are.