Originally posted by RJHindsEven if you were right, that there is no peer-reviewed evidence for millions of years, your mind is closed to the possibility that such evidence may yet be discovered.
Where is the peer reviewed evidence for millions and billions of years? There is only peer reviewed evidence for thousands of years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ5qran1sS4
Besides, it is easy to say that the peers of a scientist who thinks he has such evidence are just as deluded by Satan as the scientist is. So why bother rejecting on the basis of no peer reviewed evidence. You've already got a slam dunk on this.
Originally posted by JS357Well, atheists like sunhouse and googlefudge are always tooting the importance of peer-reviewed papers as the holy grail of science knowledge. What do you think?
Even if you were right, that there is no peer-reviewed evidence for millions of years, your mind is closed to the possibility that such evidence may yet be discovered.
Besides, it is easy to say that the peers of a scientist who thinks he has such evidence are just as deluded by Satan as the scientist is. So why bother rejecting on the basis of no peer reviewed evidence. You've already got a slam dunk on this.
Originally posted by RJHindsI won't judge them on how they are treating scientific peer review, but I don't think the scientific peer community's approval of a idea is evidence of its "truth."
Well, atheists like sunhouse and googlefudge are always tooting the importance of peer-reviewed papers as the holy grail of science knowledge. What do you think?
Generally I think scientific ideas are to be judged on their scientific utility, not their "truth" -- and scientific peers are the ones qualified to make this judgement.
This is not the way to judge religious ideas, which is more on the difference they make in people's lives. For example what religious difference does it make to people whether they believe the earth is young or old?
Originally posted by JS357It is important to believe the whole truth recorded in the Holy Bible. Jesus believed Genesis, so why shouldn't we? The following Youtube videos may help you understand better than I could.
I won't judge them on how they are treating scientific peer review, but I don't think the scientific peer community's approval of a idea is evidence of its "truth."
Generally I think scientific ideas are to be judged on their scientific utility, not their "truth" -- and scientific peers are the ones qualified to make this judgement.
This is not the way ...[text shortened]... what religious difference does it make to people whether they believe the earth is young or old?
Scientific Evidence for a Young Earth
Why it matters
The Young Earth
Does the Bible Teach a Young Earth?
The Laws of Science Support Young Earth Creation
Originally posted by RJHindsEvery one of those are opinion pieces so you are free to believe any or all and you obviously fervently believe in all of it hook line and sinker.
It is important to believe the whole truth recorded in the Holy Bible. Jesus believed Genesis, so why shouldn't we? The following Youtube videos may help you understand better than I could.
Scientific Evidence for a Young Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY0zzh8G3c
Why it matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYpkbCgSNtU
The Young Eart ...[text shortened]...
The Laws of Science Support Young Earth Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbh7S6WWdMc
The fact you are totally brainwashed by your religion makes you a poster boy for delusion, however.
Originally posted by sonhouseThey are facts of opinion.
Every one of those are opinion pieces so you are free to believe any or all and you obviously fervently believe in all of it hook line and sinker.
The fact you are totally brainwashed by your religion makes you a poster boy for delusion, however.
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Originally posted by RJHindsI have to tell you I rarely watch anybody's recommended youtubes. I can't remember the last time. If they can't summarize the points or give a link to a text version, they don't care enough about telling me, so why should I?
It is important to believe the whole truth recorded in the Holy Bible. Jesus believed Genesis, so why shouldn't we? The following Youtube videos may help you understand better than I could.
Scientific Evidence for a Young Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY0zzh8G3c
Why it matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYpkbCgSNtU
The Young Eart ...[text shortened]...
The Laws of Science Support Young Earth Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbh7S6WWdMc
Furthermore, your post here was in reply to a post of mine, and you had no comment on it, instead laying on a bunch of links on young earth when I was commenting on science and truth. I resent that. It is no way to engage in conversation.
Originally posted by JS357You are right on that one. So let's just forget it.
I have to tell you I rarely watch anybody's recommended youtubes. I can't remember the last time. If they can't summarize the points or give a link to a text version, they don't care enough about telling me, so why should I?
Furthermore, your post here was in reply to a post of mine, and you had no comment on it, instead laying on a bunch of links on young ...[text shortened]... en I was commenting on science and truth. I resent that. It is no way to engage in conversation.
Originally posted by RJHindsI dare you to read this link. I know you won't but here it is anyway: How old is the Earth? Let me count the ways it has been calculated by many methods:
Where is the peer reviewed evidence for millions and billions of years? There is only peer reviewed evidence for thousands of years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ5qran1sS4
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/AgeEarth.html
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The millions or billions of years thing doesn't bother me as a Christian.
If the billions of years of time is a problem to the Bible believer than why isn't the trillions and trillions of miles of space also a problem ?
The immensity of either time or space is not a challenge to my faith.
Originally posted by RJHindsAppealing to authorities (and in this case I use "authorities" loosely) is not a legitimate way to engage in discussion/debate. It would be one thing if you made an argument for your position, and used these videos as supporting information. But just cutting and pasting links to videos, and not even bothering to summarize the arguments they make or explain why these people should be listened to (much less make your own argument) is intellectually lazy.
It is important to believe the whole truth recorded in the Holy Bible. Jesus believed Genesis, so why shouldn't we? The following Youtube videos may help you understand better than I could.
Scientific Evidence for a Young Earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PY0zzh8G3c
Why it matters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYpkbCgSNtU
The Young Eart ...[text shortened]...
The Laws of Science Support Young Earth Creation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbh7S6WWdMc