06 Sep '16 16:54>
Originally posted by sonship. Providing etiological explanation of the human moral faculty should not be confused with providing a meta-ethical account.
Just provide the etiological explanation of the human moral faculty by means of evolution. You said that it was the obvious alternative to the nature of God. If I am not quoting exactly, I am close enough.
So your origin of the moral faculty by means of Evolution you can talk about here.
Just provide the etiological explanation of the human moral faculty by means of evolution.
No.
First, you need to demonstrate that you even understand the notional distinction between such an account and a meta-ethical account (the distinction I already outlined in my previous post in this thread). We have already been here before, and I will not play the fool again simply because you are unable, or just too stubborn, to wrap your head around what should be a fairly straightforward distinction. In fact, here is a direct quote from Thread 157928 page 5, which explains what happened when we were at, more or less, this same exact juncture previously:
LemonJello to sonship:
“Gee, no kidding. Did you simply miss all the times where I stated that there is a difference between providing etiological explanation for the human moral sense; and providing some meta-ethical view that would serve to justify those sensibilities?
Let's recap what happened because it really is hilarious. You asked me to provide explanation for the origin of the human moral sense. I then even inserted a whole extended post asking for clarification because, as I explained, that is just an anthropologic question that provides descriptive explanation but would provide no meta-ethical accounting for how any of these sensibilities could be factual or justified, etc. I wanted clarification that this is actually what you were looking for. Even after reading that post of clarification, you said "Start there then" as if challenging me to give some descriptive explanation for the human moral sense. After all this, when I then go on to oblige you, you object that I am not providing the meta-ethical accounting. Hilarious! You know, I would still like to think that entering these discussions with you (and Freaky, too) is not a complete waste of my time. However, you surely can see now how I have some building evidence to the contrary. “
Now, if you are willing to show that you understand the distinction now, I will oblige you. What I would suggest is an exchange, like the one KJ and I are engaged in, stemming from the absurd escapism thread: you read the Joyce account; I read an account of your choosing. The Joyce account (chapters 1-4) provide exactly the sort of etiological explanation that you are looking for. Following that, we can engage in additional discussion regarding the merits (or lack thereof) of these accounts.