Originally posted by no1marauderdid I say a black hole is a singularity?
The singularity from which the Big Bang came was not and couldn't have been a black hole by definition; otherwise there would be no universe at all. You are using rules that apply to black holes not to singularities; while all black holes may have singularities, the singularity present pre-Big Bang had nothing to do with a black hole.
I think not.
Look at the underlying factors that that first indicated the Big Bang.
everything in the Universe was moving away from the same point and not only that: the farther away from that point the faster things receded. That is the mechanics of an explosion ,hence the name Big Bang.
But, the same mechanics , in the absence of gravitation requires that every thing stays on it's initial vector so without mass to instantiate gravity there is no way to effect the the particle collisions to instantiate mass in the first place.
So mass would have to be present at the outset and that implies a black hole.
Originally posted by Nordlyshow does that help?
I didn't object to that part of your calculation, but the step before. sqrt (a/b) = sqrt(a)/sqrt(b) only works for positive numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invalid_proof
somebody says it doesn't appy to negative numbers so it's invalid.
because this is also true
if sqrt (1/-1) does not equal sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1) and in all cases sqrt(1)=1 then doesnt it follow that sqrt(-1) couldn't = i
which it certainly does.
Originally posted by frogstompWell, there's more to it than just somebody saying it doesn't apply. Maybe this helps:
how does that help?
somebody says it doesn't appy to negative numbers so it's invalid.
because this is also true
if sqrt (1/-1) does not equal sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1) and in all cases sqrt(1)=1 then doesnt it follow that sqrt(-1) couldn't = i
which it certainly does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root#Square_roots_of_complex_numbers
I am not sure I understand your last sentence.
|sqrt (1/-1)| = |sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)| would be correct, if I am not totally confused now.
Originally posted by frogstompSince by definition nothing, not even light, can escape the event horizon of a black hole, such a thing could not have existed pre-Big Bang or we'd have no universe.
did I say a black hole is a singularity?
I think not.
Look at the underlying factors that that first indicated the Big Bang.
everything in the Universe was moving away from the same point and not only that: the farther away from that point the faster things receded. That is the mechanics of an explosion ,hence the n ...[text shortened]... ce.
So mass would have to be present at the outset and that implies a black hole.
Originally posted by KellyJayOK, I should have said "little doubt", there is no doubt in my mind that it did.
No doubt the Big Bang happened? Prove it!
Kelly
I'd say it would be an easy bet to say that some dude on a chess site won't be able to "prove" the big bang to your satisfaction, but there is much about it on the web. Compare what science says about the world we live in and compare that to what Genesis says and ask yourself which account is real.
Come over to the Dark Side ...
*mwahahahah*
Originally posted by Nordlyseven after reading the error proofs
Well, there's more to it than just somebody saying it doesn't apply. Maybe this helps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root#Square_roots_of_complex_numbers
I am not sure I understand your last sentence.
|sqrt (1/-1)| = |sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)| would be correct, if I am not totally confused now.
it's still has me baffled
this is why I asked for help lol
Originally posted by Nordlyseven after reading the error proofs
Well, there's more to it than just somebody saying it doesn't apply. Maybe this helps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_root#Square_roots_of_complex_numbers
I am not sure I understand your last sentence.
|sqrt (1/-1)| = |sqrt(1)/sqrt(-1)| would be correct, if I am not totally confused now.
it's still has me baffled
this is why I asked for help lol
twice lmaoooooooo