Originally posted by Proper Knobmmm, yes it occurs, but as has been shown in Dobzhanskys experiments with Drosophila (fruit flies), after decades of experimentation, mutants were in each and every case inferior, and in nature, these weaker elements would be overcome, thus what was found was, that when these weaker mutations mated, after a few generations normal flies began to hatch preserving the fruit fly in the form at which it had originally existed.
It is black and white Robbie.
Either cell mutation occurs or it doesn't. Which one is it?
Originally posted by Proper Knobhe said in another thread(or kelly or joseph, who cares) that mutations do occur, so a frog might turn into a frog with better swimming ability, but a t-rex cannot possibly turn into a chiken.
It is black and white Robbie.
Either cell mutation occurs or it doesn't. Which one is it?
apparently nature has a sense of decency and respectability and knows when enought is enough. it always stops just before spawning another species and annoying god. because nature knows its place and knows not to fuk with god
Originally posted by robbie carrobieyes yes bloody yes. the experiment produced some conditions which the flies responded to. left in nature those conditions were gone so of course the new flies would be overcome.
mmm, yes it occurs, but as has been shown in Dobzhanskys experiments with Drosophila (fruit flies), after decades of experimentation, mutants were in each and every case inferior, and in nature, these weaker elements would be overcome, thus what was found was, that when these weaker mutations mated, after a few generations normal flies began to hatch preserving the fruit fly in the form at which it had originally existed.
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Originally posted by Zahlanzii see a hollow and empty chasm filing up with phlegmy drivel, i always knew you were a sore loser Zappy 🙂
"making fun and insulting retarded people might get you in hell"
now that i repeated that little prayer in my head and in writing let's begin.
you keep ranting on and one and you don't even see you are not making sense.
you keep mentioning the meaning of light and source of light. yet you fail to demonstrate that god still uses the words "let it be rget to prove them and then you use them as axioms in making further claims.
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Originally posted by Zahlanziyou shall tell the forum, did these experiments produce anything new? and the very stones shall cry out a resounding emphatic, nope! for almost without exception, they were inferior to wild flies in viability, fertility and longevity. no enhanced abilities, no nothing!
yes yes bloody yes. the experiment produced some conditions which the flies responded to. left in nature those conditions were gone so of course the new flies would be overcome.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieyes you are right
i see a hollow and empty chasm of filing up with phlegmy drivel, i always knew you were a sore loser Zappy 🙂
wait what did i lose to be a sore loser?
oh wait it comes back to me now, it was your awetasticular logic. it hit me like a mack truck. all i remember were some green lights. and purple. and pink. and comic like captions like "capow!" "CAPOW" "Bam" floating everywhere.
i must be allowed a week or a month to recover my inferior intellect.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf mutants are always inferior, could you explain to me why bacteria are becoming resistant to anitbiotics please?
mmm, yes it occurs, but as has been shown in Dobzhanskys experiments with Drosophila (fruit flies), after decades of experimentation, mutants were in each and every case inferior, and in nature, these weaker elements would be overcome, thus what was found was, that when these weaker mutations mated, after a few generations normal flies began to hatch preserving the fruit fly in the form at which it had originally existed.
Originally posted by Zahlanzii think it shall take more than a week or a few months, id give yourself some respite, just refrain from typing, read the text, and try to absorb the details!
yes you are right
wait what did i lose to be a sore loser?
oh wait it comes back to me now, it was your awetasticular logic. it hit me like a mack truck. all i remember were some green lights. and purple. and pink. and comic like captions like "capow!" "CAPOW" "Bam" floating everywhere.
i must be allowed a week or a month to recover my inferior intellect.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieActually no. I do not want you to believe any such thing. I would like it if you:
now there's a surprise! ok first you want me to accept, that a few loose scales on some dinosaur, developed into the unprecedented marvel of design, the feather, then you want me to believe that as this was taking place, all the noisy owls died out cause they couldn't catch any mice leaving only the silent ones left for us to marvel at, ohhhhhhh reallllly, does this strike anyone else as rather far fetched?
1. Took the time to find out what the Theory of Evolution was.
2. Decided on your own whether it makes sense and whether there is good evidence for it.
3. When you have problems with it or feel there are errors, talk about it rationally with others who may know more than you do so that you can clarify the problems or possibly even convince them that they are wrong so that we can all be enlightened.
4. Stop putting down evolution for no apparent reason than it goes against your religious beliefs.
5. Don't deliberately trying to spread untruths about evolution.
What you believe about loose dinosaur scales doesn't really concern me that much, but if you would like to discuss the details of what scientist have determined so far regarding them I am sure we could both learn a lot because I am personally totally ignorant about dinosaur scales (I don't even know if they had scales).
As for noisy owls dying out, that seems perfectly obvious not far fetched, but the reality is probably a bit more complicated. Do you have anything other than personal incredulity when it comes to your objection to the idea that owl wings are quiet due to natural selection?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieShowing beyond doubt that the "normal" fruit fly is well adapted to the laboratory.
mmm, yes it occurs, but as has been shown in Dobzhanskys experiments with Drosophila (fruit flies), after decades of experimentation, mutants were in each and every case inferior, and in nature, these weaker elements would be overcome, thus what was found was, that when these weaker mutations mated, after a few generations normal flies began to hatch preserving the fruit fly in the form at which it had originally existed.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo you agree though that genetic drift and differentiation occurs? Think about domestic animals for example. Do you think that sausage dogs are genetically different from grey hounds or do you believe that left to their own devices they would both go back to being wolves? Do you believe that both breeds are merely wolves with defects (harmful mutations) or do you think that they both have unique mutations that are not harmful and that do not exist in wolves and result in their own unique set of characteristics.
showing that the hereditary code has a remarkable ability to repair genetic damage to itself! and helps to preserve the kind of organism that it is coded for.
Or are you undecided on the above questions?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieRobbie you're talking utter garbage as per usual.
it is their speed of mutation, the can mutate faster than their enemies, next question for the panel please!
Genetic mutations are random, some will be of benefit some will not. Here's a link to the pale-coated deer mouse where a random genetic mutation has enabled it to have a lighter fur coat where it lives in sand dunes.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1744641/scientists_track_mouse_evolution_icon/index.html
As you can see a random mutation in the genetic material has been of benefit to this particular mouse and that gene has now spread through the population of mice.
Your assertion that genetic mutations are always inferior is not correct.
So you accept that random genetic mutations occur. As i've demonstrated some mutations will be of benefit to the population. Do you agree with me so far?