14 Mar 21
It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones.
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?
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My first thought is to beware of a genetic fallacy.
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The genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue)[1] is a fallacy of irrelevance that is based solely on someone's or something's history, origin, or source rather than its current meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative esteem from the earlier context. In other words, a claim is ignored in favor of attacking or championing its source.
The fallacy therefore fails to assess the claim on its merit. The first criterion of a good argument is that the premises must have bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim in question.[2] Genetic accounts of an issue may be true, and they may help illuminate the reasons why the issue has assumed its present form, but they are not conclusive in determining its merits.[3]
14 Mar 21
@chaney3 saida single anecdote for yer collection
It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones.
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?
i was compelled to go to church every sunday by my parents
i was dressed in finery that i was not to touch any other day of the week
it was only after fifty years of life that i began to ask questions about other pathways to God
my anecdote about my early life does not match yer hypothesis
15 Mar 21
@chaney3 saidThe number of people who lose religion is quite high. Many, indeed, boast about how they were brought up religiously and somehow "overcame it."
It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones.
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?
Many believers also talk about how they came back to it after certain realizations that they viewed as vital tot hem. They had to, in some way, leave the regular Church experience and gain some greater insight for themselves.
So, while I see the rationale here, I do kind of disagree.
But it is definitely the case that foreign cosmologies are difficult to come to grips with.
15 Mar 21
@chaney3
"It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones."
Yes, absolutely. It would only take a few generations of not passing down the story for a faith to die off.
The flip side of the coin is that some are lost early because they see the story presented as false and never join.
15 Mar 21
@sonship saidYou actually think the simple and uncontroversial observation that... "It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones" is an example of a genetic fallacy?
My first thought is to beware of a genetic fallacy.
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15 Mar 21
@chaney3 saidThe fact that most people in India are Hindu, or most people in the Middle East Muslim, is not coincidence. Geography heavily determines faith.
It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones.
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?
@sonship saidBut he didn't commit a generic fallacy. So, by only saying "beware of a genetic fallacy" in response to what he said is, for all intents and purposes, you are simply dodging what he said.
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It can lead to committing the generic fallacy.
That is why I wrote what I wrote. I would beware of one.
My first thought is to beware of a genetic fallacy.
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I didn't say he committed it. I said my first thought would be to beware of one arriving. He asked for thoughts, didn't he?
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?
And not answering a question in a first post is not dodging necessarily.
If it is you have dodged plenty of issues.
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No it is not pretty much.
He asked for thoughts. And I provide some thoughts.
It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones.
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?
Just because you didn't like my thoughts doesn't disqualify them as a dodge.
16 Mar 21
@chaney3 saidNot sure why anybody is disagreeing with this. The tendency is clear and obvious, and of course, no surprise.
It's very likely that one's faith is highly determined by how and where they were brought up, along with the belief system of their parents and close loved ones.
For an adult Christian, for example, that belief system was engrained in their mind from an early age, and Buddhism never really had a chance.
Thoughts?