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It is important in the OP for me to say what OP is NOT about.
It is NOT about (as far as I am concerned) what psychologists define as faith. It is not what Wbester's Dictionary or some other human opinion of the natural worldly culture tells you what faith is.

This is intended by me to be about the Bible's explanation of faith.

Faith is something supernatural according to the Bible.

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I wrote what above I am not talking about. Now what am I tallking about (me).

"Now faith is the sunstantiation ofthings hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1)

The secular or natural minded psychologist or philosopher will object. They might say that is not fair. Maybe it is not fair to our natural estimation.

But I maintain the Bible defines genuine faith as the substantiating ability of what is actually true, real, there, about God.

Like the eye substantiates the reality of an object that is there to be seen.
It is a foregone conclusion that what is seen is actually real.
So in the Bible faith is man's gift orifginarting from from from God to substantiate what about Him that is absolutely genuine, real, truth, is THERE.

[b]Faith is the substantiation of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." [yet are realities]

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@sonship said
Faith is the substantiation of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." [yet are realities]
Is it "substance" or "substantiation"?

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What happened to the word "assurance"?

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@fmf said
What happened to the word "assurance"?
"Confidence", "conviction".

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There are 28 different translations of Hebrews 1:11 here https://biblehub.com/hebrews/11-1.htm Where is the word SUBSTANTIATION?

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@sonship said

"Now faith is the sunstantiation ofthings hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1)
Do you mean “substance” rather than “substantiation”?

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@fmf said
Is it "substance" or "substantiation"?
Just seen this, sorry for repeating.

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@fmf said
There are 28 different translations of Hebrews 1:11 here https://biblehub.com/hebrews/11-1.htm Where is the word SUBSTANTIATION?
I find the word SUBSTANTIATION in this book: The Holy Word for Morning Revival - God’s Economy in Faith By Witness Lee

The word SUBSTANTIATION does not appear in these translations of the Bible:

New International Version
New Living Translation
English Standard Version
Berean Study Bible
New American Standard Bible
NASB 1995
NASB 1977
Amplified Bible
Christian Standard Bible
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Contemporary English Version
Good News Translation
GOD'S WORD® Translation
International Standard Version
NET Bible
King James Bible
New King James Version
King James 2000 Bible
New Heart English Bible
World English Bible
American King James Version
American Standard Version
A Faithful Version
English Revised Version
Webster's Bible Translation
Geneva Bible of 1587
Bishops' Bible of 1568
Coverdale Bible of 1535
Tyndale Bible of 1526
Literal Standard Version
Berean Literal Bible
Young's Literal Translation
Smith's Literal Translation
Literal Emphasis Translation
Douay-Rheims Bible
Lamsa Bible
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Anderson New Testament
Godbey New Testament
Haweis New Testament
Mace New Testament
Weymouth New Testament
Worrell New Testament
Worsley New Testament

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@fmf said
New International VersionNew Living TranslationEnglish Standard VersionBerean Study BibleNew American Standard BibleNASB 1995NASB 1977Amplified Bible
Christian Standard BibleHolman Christian Standard BibleContemporary English VersionGood News TranslationGOD'S WORD® TranslationInternational Standard VersionNET BibleKing James BibleNew King James VersionKing James 2000 Bible
New ...[text shortened]... is New Testament
Mace New TestamentWeymouth New TestamentWorrell New TestamentWorsley New Testament
Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
Faith shows the reality of what we hope for; it is the evidence of things we cannot see.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Now faith is the assurance of what we hope for and the certainty of what we do not see.
Now faith is the certainty of things hoped for, a proof of things not seen.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
Now faith is the reality of what is hoped for, the proof of what is not seen.
Now faith is the reality of what is hoped for, the proof of what is not seen.
Faith makes us sure of what we hope for and gives us proof of what we cannot see.
To have faith is to be sure of the things we hope for, to be certain of the things we cannot see.
Faith assures us of things we expect and convinces us of the existence of things we cannot see.
Now faith is the assurance that what we hope for will come about and the certainty that what we cannot see exists.
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for, being convinced of what we do not see.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Now faith is being confident of what we hope for, convinced about things we do not see.
Now faith is assurance of things hoped for, proof of things not seen.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Now faith is assurance of things hoped for, a conviction of things not seen.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the conviction of things not seen.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the proving of things not seen.
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Nowe faith is the ground of things, which are hoped for, and the euidence of things which are not seene.
Fayth is the grounde of thynges hoped for, the euidence of thynges not seene.
Faith is a sure confidence of thinges which are hoped for, and a certaynte of thinges which are not sene.
Fayth is a sure confidence of thynges which are hoped for and a certayntie of thynges which are not sene.
Now faith is [the] substance of things hoped for, [the] proof of matters not being seen,
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not being seen.
And faith is of things hoped for a confidence, of matters not seen a conviction,
And faith is the foundation of things hoped for, the proof of things not seen.
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the compelled persuasion of things not being seen.
Now faith is the substance of things to be hoped for, the evidence of things that appear not.
Now, faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not apparent.
Now faith is the conviction concerning those things that are in hope, as if it were these things in action, and the revelation of those things that are unseen;
NOW faith is the substance of things hoped for, just as it was the substance of things which have come to pass; and it is the evidence of things not seen,
Now, faith is a sure confidence with respect to things hoped for, a firm persuasion with respect to things not seen:
But faith is the confidence of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
NOW faith is the realizing confidence of the things hoped for, and the demonstration of things unseen:
Now faith is the foundation of our hopes of happiness, and the persuasion we have about things not evident to our senses.
Now faith is a well-grounded assurance of that for which we hope, and a conviction of the reality of things which we do not see.
Now faith is an assurance of things hoped for, a sure persuasion of things not seen;
Now faith is the confident expectation of things hoped for, and a conviction of things not seen:

sonship's version: Faith is the substantiation of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen

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@sonship said
It is important in the OP for me to say what OP is NOT about.
It is NOT about (as far as I am concerned) what psychologists define as faith. It is not what Wbester's Dictionary or some other human opinion of the natural worldly culture tells you what faith is.

This is intended by me to be about the Bible's explanation of faith.

Faith is something supernatural according to the Bible.
Everyone has faith; we are creatures of faith; we don't all put it in the same places
and depending on where we are putting it, everything will change around us.

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@kellyjay said
Everyone has faith; we are creatures of faith; we don't all put it in the same places
and depending on where we are putting it, everything will change around us.
depending on where we are putting it, everything will change around us.

I disagree. Faith can cause our perception of what is around us to change. Faith can cause our behaviour with regard to what is around us to change.

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@fmf said
depending on where we are putting it, everything will change around us.

I disagree. Faith can cause our perception of what is around us to change. Faith can cause our behaviour with regard to what is around us to change.
🙂 Yes, how we view it all changes for us; the world changes around us as we see it
from a whole new perspective. The world was always the world, true.

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@kellyjay said
🙂 Yes, how we view it all changes for us; the world changes around us as we see it
from a whole new perspective. The world was always the world, true.
Perception. Belief. Faith.

Cognition.

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@fmf said
Perception. Belief. Faith.

Cognition.
Our faith is what we trust; its fidelity, reality, and what we believe don't change
whatever we trust in. Putting our faith in anything doesn't change; the world
around us will remain as it is, no matter what we think about it; I believe we agree.

To be mistaken about something important foundational to everything else we
doesn't change that truth; it could, however, be very detrimental to our perception
of the world.

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