1.There are a group of people hiking in the Alps. Suddenly a grey mist envelopes them. They are trapped in the mountains sure to die. The one guy says well, seeing we are going to die, let me jump down a cliff. There might be a way out for me if I don't die.

2.There are a group of people hiking in the Alps. Suddenly a grey mist envelopes them. They are trapped in the mountains sure to die. Suddenly one guy hears a voice calling out to him, saying "Jump down the cliff it is only a short drop. There is a cave down here in which you can keep warm. Trust me I did it." The guy decides to jump down the cliff because there seems to be a way out for him.

Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Originally posted by dj2becker
1.There are a group of people hiking in the Alps. Suddenly a grey mist envelopes them. They are trapped in the mountains sure to die. The one guy says well, seeing we are going to die, let me jump down a cliff. There might be a way out for me if I don't die.

2.There are a group of people hiking in the Alps. Suddenly a grey mist envelopes them. They are ...[text shortened]...
Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Which is faith and which is blind faith?

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Which is faith and which is blind faith?

Originally posted by dj2becker
1= blind faith

2=faith

Originally posted by telerion
1. Reason

2. Reason

Not faith or blind faith.

Originally posted by dj2becker
1 = Faith without reason = blind faith

2 = Faith based on reason = faith

Originally posted by dj2becker
1 = Faith without reason = blind faith

2 = Faith based on reason = faith

Originally posted by telerion
Like I said, both of your examples are reason. No faith involved.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Where does a faith that is incompatible with reason fit in? Is it blind faith or something else?

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Where does a faith that is incompatible with reason fit in? Is it blind faith or something else?

Originally posted by telerion
Like I said, both of your examples are reason. No faith involved.

Originally posted by Coletti
Reason is a necessary condition of faith. You can not believe in something if you think it is unreasonable.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
Do you think the existence of talking snakes is reasonable?
How about the loading of a pair of each of the world's billions of species onto a boat and keeping them alive together for weeks by a staff of a handful of humans?

Originally posted by Coletti
Is it reasonable to assume that there is no supernatural. If you assume God is an illusion, it would be unreasonable for you to believe anything related to God, or the Bible. I do not make that assumption.