Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSee what I mean?
Are you saying evolution is an assumption?
If so, are you interested in buying London Bridge?
You are such a true believer you assume your assumptions must be true. No need for actual observation or repreatability, just faith.
Originally posted by EladarFaith is your bag dude. I'm more into verifiable evidence. Evolution has plenty of that, which you can discover for yourself with a little light reading.
See what I mean?
You are such a true believer you assume your assumptions must be true. No need for actual observation or repreatability, just faith.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI am going with the op with real science. Real science is the kind of science you can see and repeat, not just pretend you've seen.
Faith is your bag dude. I'm more into verifiable evidence. Evolution has plenty of that, which you can discover for yourself with a little light reading.
Originally posted by 667joeYou got some faith in science going on. I tease you, or do I. Hope you find the value in faith even as you realize the value in science.
Knowledge means knowing facts that are provable and reproducible. Faith means you hope something is true but you can't prove it because if you could, it would be knowledge and faith would not be required. Why should I believe anything on faith alone? One religious faith is just as likely to be true as any other, and since none of them has been proven, all o ...[text shortened]... faith not be questioned. This is an anti knowledge position. Science is always questioning itself.
Originally posted by 667joeWay to change the topic.
I think the victims in Waco and Jonestown were Christians and not trained in science. Also, most of the killers in Nazi concentration camps were Protestants and Catholics.
Typical, get called on an idiotic statement, change the topic.
Haters gotta hate.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeClearly, the answer is yes. Yes, he was/is.
I never really followed the Debates Forum. Were you as nonsensical in that forum as well?
Originally posted by Eladar
The original post in this thread is in the debate forum?
He's a dyed-in-the-wool "conservatard". It's what they do.
Don't ask me how he got over here or why he's now polluting this forum with his nonsense.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSplendid dodge to my question there.
A chap once told me that dinosaurs didn't exist, and that God had put the bones in rocks to confuse mankind.
The two of you would have got along splendidly.
By the way have you ever heard of 'behemoth' in the Bible? I don't hold the same view that chap of yours.
Originally posted by EladarEvolution occurs over a considerable time period. To dismiss it because you can't set up a camera and observe it in operation is plain ridiculous and in the same ball park as the chap who insists the world is flat because he can't see the curvature with his own eyes.
I am going with the op with real science. Real science is the kind of science you can see and repeat, not just pretend you've seen.
Is creation something you can repeat for us, here and now?
Originally posted by 667joeScientists are human and carry all the baggage humans do. Science is very conservative and new ideas face fierce struggle.
The pilots who crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11 were operating on very strongly believed faith. Scientists have open minds. Believers have closed minds!
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeFor 'evolution' to occur you need pre-existing creatures with a pre-existing DNA code. Well at least according to the 'verifiable evidence' that you supposedly have. So that does not exclude the possibility of creation happening first.
Faith is your bag dude. I'm more into verifiable evidence. Evolution has plenty of that, which you can discover for yourself with a little light reading.
Originally posted by EladarYou can find much of the evidence in favour of the theory of evolution summarized for the layman here:
I agree with your definition of knowable.
Perhaps you can reproduce evolution for me. I've never actually seen it done. Can you please evolve a new species for me?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution