Originally posted by RJHinds What he is saying is pure speculation. He offers no proof.
While there is much proof for the fine-tuned universe. It
is an accepted fact among scientist that do not have a
bias against God as the creator of the universe. A person
can make up all kind of possibilities. That is done all the
time in science fiction like "Stat Wars" but a real scientist ...[text shortened]... such claims without proof. This is
an example of "intellectual dishonesty" to the extreme.
Well, the burden is upon the proposition. But you're right. Until we discover life on another planet, we won't know who is right. Even then, all of the "finely tuned" crowd will emphasize the similarities, while the "broad scale" crowd emphasizes the differences.
But at least we can feel comfortable that the Catholic Church as a commission in place to determine whether aliens are fallen like us, and whether they require, or even qualify for, redemption.
Originally posted by RJHinds I took their word for it. I do not have any way to do the
experiments they can do. It is way too much trouble for
me. I have nothing to gain from it anyway, since it already
supports my belief that God is the creator. So you are
the ones that should be trying to come up with proof to
prove their proofs are in error. This guy has not done that,
he only rattled on about what might be.
So you have faith in the scientists who have experimented in ways you do not know and drawn conclusions based upon the data you are not familiar with? You readily accept these conclusions because they support your current belief system. Okay, well, that makes sense I guess.
Originally posted by Kunsoo So you have faith in the scientists who have experimented in ways you do not know and drawn conclusions based upon the data you are not familiar with? You readily accept these conclusions because they support your current belief system. Okay, well, that makes sense I guess.
Fallacy of the universe fine tuned for life:
17 Jun '11 20:37
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