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Originally posted by ZahlanziJob Done!!
yes, that's what i am doing.
Originally posted by Dasa"...because the Vedas threatened the pathetic mundane....Christian false doctrine.
What is false religion?
It is a doctrine/teaching fabricated from the mind of mundane man in recent times and it is not eternal *meaning before it apperaed it did not exist.
True religion receives its doctrine/knowledge from the Supreme Personality of Godhead - and has existed for eternality meaning there was never a time it did not exist.
Because fals ...[text shortened]... th dismiss true religion in favour of false religion..............( rhetorical question )
Originally posted by googlefudgeI'm not arguing. By the way, all the angels can dance on the head of a pin.
You are all arguing about the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin without
bothering to establish the existence let alone any properties of angels.
None of you can claim to have truth as none of you have evidence to back up your positions.
Many of which are in direct contradiction to all that we DO know about the reality we live in. ...[text shortened]... east one of you has a shred of supporting evidence then none of you has any valid
truth claim.
Originally posted by josephwNo it is not.
I'm not arguing. By the way, [b]all the angels can dance on the head of a pin.
I have evidence.
All that exists is evidence for the existence of a creator.[/b]
Originally posted by googlefudgeDon't get so worked up about it.
No it is not.
"All that is" is NOT evidence for a creator because its perfectly possible to adequately explain
'All that is' without a divine creator.
That's what science does.
And unlike religion science plainly works.
Given I am typing this into a computer running on electricity in a centrally heated house while
also looking at satellit ...[text shortened]... e you define god to be 'the universe' but we already have a name for that.)
Originally posted by josephwThe fact that things haven't always existed does not mean that they need a creator.
Don't get so worked up about it.
It is insane to think that all that exists came into existence without a creator. All one needs to do to know there is a creator for all that exists is to think rationally.
[b]All that exists can not have always existed.
Wrap you mind around that.[/b]
Originally posted by josephwthat's an irrational, self-defeating argument.
Don't get so worked up about it.
It is insane to think that all that exists came into existence without a creator. All one needs to do to know there is a creator for all that exists is to think rationally.
[b]All that exists can not have always existed.
Wrap you mind around that.[/b]
All that exists can not have always existed.
Originally posted by googlefudgeSomething doesn't come from nothing unless it is created. How anyone can imagine that matter came into existence without a cause is beyond reason. One cannot say that matter has always existed. That would throw the theory of evolution on its head. To claim that at some point in time organic life sprang into existence from something that already existed without knowing when, where or how matter came into existence is pure mindless wishful thinking.
The fact that things haven't always existed does not mean that they need a creator.
Given the vast number of things in the universe that begin existing without any creator this
is obviously and trivially true.
Natural processes can explain the existence of everything (in nature), with no creator involved.