Originally posted by DoctorScribbles Does being turned into a pillar of salt fall under this category?
Did Lot's wife have an opportunity to avail herself of any of the five types of forgiveness between her sin of disobedience and her penal transformation into sodium chloride?
No one can honestly answer that question. What happened to her soul after physical death (I assume death occured during saltification) is not mentioned.
It is entirely possible that all deaths are a result of God deciding that he now knows enough about that person to properly Judge them and thus no further testing (suffering) on earth is required and so he takes them (either to heaven or hell).
Originally posted by jaywill Some naughty childen are probably not as much of a problem as some self pitying adult who bitterly blames his failed life on God.
Originally posted by jaywill [b]===================================
Must suck to have so much utter nonsense cluttering up your brain all the time, jaywill.
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This one particular subject does not fill my mind all the time. Like any other serious student of a particulkar large work when the need arises, I concentrate on a particular subjec ...[text shortened]... save your sympathy. Now if that is all you have to say, I will get back to my discussion.[/b]
I thought the need arose for a concentration on this subject.
Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.
Originally posted by LemonJello [b]I thought the need arose for a concentration on this subject.
Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.
For instance I am a composer
Do you have anything I could play on my guitar?[/b]
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Well, you were wrong. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all make mistakes.
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I don't think I made a mistake.
I read some of the posts of ToO and Rajk999 and they do not understand these things.
Some don't care. But I wrote it anyway. Maybe you don't care.
Originally posted by jaywill I don't think you should make the mistake of over generalizing.
There is [b]much forgiveness in the Old Testament.
First of all, all the Livitical sacrifices such as Sin Offering, Trespas Offering, Peace Offering were related to forgiveness.
Then you have God sparing Adam and promising salvation.
Then you have God not judging Cain as harshl ondemnation".[/b] But there is much forgiveness, forebearance, pardon in the Old Testament.[/b]
Notice I did not say the OT was devoid of forgiveness, rather, there is far less of it than in the NT. Case in point is the woman caught in adultery. If it had occurred before the time of Christ she is a dead woman, however,
Christ showed her mercy and she lived. This is why he came.
Originally posted by whodey Notice I did not say the OT was devoid of forgiveness, rather, there is far less of it than in the NT. Case in point is the woman caught in adultery. If it had occurred before the time of Christ she is a dead woman, however,
Christ showed her mercy and she lived. This is why he came.
Was the woman caught in adultery offending God or the people or both?
If she was stoned to death before Christ came, would that have been Gods punishment?
Originally posted by twhitehead Was the woman caught in adultery offending God or the people or both?
If she was stoned to death before Christ came, would that have been Gods punishment?
I have nothing to say about what would of or could have happened if the account was different. I do not spend a lot of time on hypothetical cases.
Of course all our sinning is an offense to God.
It seems that the more vocal ones of the mob around her, ready to stone her, were only interested in so far as it gave them an excuse to criticize Jesus.
Five Kinds of Forgiveness
02 Sep '08 13:38
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