04 Apr '18 21:49>
Not a deep subject but just want to see the thoughts here on Jesus after his resurrection. Was he flesh or was he a spirit?
Originally posted by @galveston75I think Jesus answered that here :
Not a deep subject but just want to see the thoughts here on Jesus after his resurrection. Was he flesh or was he a spirit?
Originally posted by @rajk999Yeah good points here. So it says they were frightened at first and that is because they didn't recognize him even though they were pretty sure who he was, which was Jesus. So he had to say what he said to calm them down because they knew he was really killed and was in the tomb. Plus there are other times in the Bible where angels also materialized into fleshly bodies in order to be able to have dealings with humans, even to the point of sitting down and having a meal with whom they were visiting. If they were only some whispy looking spirit being it could be an uneasy thing to behold.
[b]I think Jesus answered that here :
[i]And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I my ...[text shortened]... when the time came for that to happen. He didn't have to die again and again loose that human flesh.
Originally posted by @galveston75Not sure are you?
Was he flesh or was he a spirit?
Originally posted by @secondsonNot at all. I know he was a spirit completely.
Not sure are you?
Originally posted by @galveston75Ok .. does it make a difference to anything ?
Yeah good points here. So it says they were frightened at first and that is because they didn't recognize him even though they were pretty sure who he was, which was Jesus. So he had to say what he said to calm them down because they knew he was really killed and was in the tomb. Plus there are other times in the Bible where angels also materialized int ...[text shortened]... as a spirit, but one that could materialize if the need be just as angels have done in the past.
Originally posted by @galveston75Christ arose both physically and was also transfigured into "a life giving Spirit" so that in resurrection He can indwell those who believe into Him and receive Him.
The Bible says that Jesus “was put to death in the flesh but made alive [resurrected] in the spirit.”—1 Peter 3:18;
" ... on the one hand being put to death in the flesh, but on the other, made alive in the Spirit;
IN WHICH ALSO ... He went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, who were formerly disobedient when the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark wasbeing prepared, ..." (1 Pet. 3:18b-20a Recovery Version)
So he was flesh 100% when he died but came back as a spirit, but one that could materialize if the need be just as angels have done in the past.
"...the last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45)
"And the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom." (2 Cor. 3:17)
"Who is he who condemns? It is Christ Jesus who died and, rather, who was raised,
who is also at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us." (Rom. 8:34)
"But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the [human] spirit is life because of righteousness." (Rom. 8:10)
Originally posted by @rajk999No not really but just knowing the truth of the matter is a good thing to know.....
Ok .. does it make a difference to anything ?
Originally posted by @galveston75Well for me truth is Christ.
No not really but just knowing the truth of the matter is a good thing to know.....
Originally posted by @rajk999Then why do you disregard Christ’s sacrificial death? Why do you disregard His Resurrection? Why do you not think belief in Christ and His Resurrection are required for salvation? Why do you ignore Christ’s clear and clearly unambiguous statement in John 14:6 - “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” - when you make the absurd claim that atheists go to heaven?
Well for me truth is Christ.
Christ answered the question and that is good enough for me.
Originally posted by @romans1009Nobody goes to heaven.
Then why do you disregard Christ’s sacrificial death? Why do you disregard His Resurrection? Why do you not think belief in Christ and His Resurrection are required for salvation? Why do you ignore Christ’s clear and clearly unambiguous statement in John 14:6 - “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” - when you make the absurd claim that atheists go to heaven?
Originally posted by @rajk999Ok, I’ll bite. Where do you think Christians go when they die?
Nobody goes to heaven.
Originally posted by @galveston75Galveston
A few scriptures I think about are these where they all mention about Jesus and what he was after he was resurrected:
The Bible says that Jesus “was put to death in the flesh but made alive [resurrected] in the spirit.”—1 Peter 3:18;
" ... being put to death in the flesh, but on the other, made alive in the Spirit; in which He also went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison ..."
Acts 13:34;
"And as to His having raised Him up from the dead, no longer to return to corruption, He spoke in this way, I will give you the holy things of David, the faithful things."
1 Corinthians 15:45;
"the last Adam became a life giving Spirit."
"And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may be with you forever,
Even the Spirit of reality, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him;
but you know Him, because He abides with you AND SHALL BE IN YOU.
I will not leave you as orphans, I am coming to you." (John 14:16-18)
" ... He abides with you and shall be in you. I will not leave you as orphans, I AM COMING TO YOU."
" ... He will give you another Comforter, that He may be with you forever.