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How important is it to Christians and to their beliefs about themselves?
The Donald Trump that Florida evangelical minister Paula White sees is a good listener, a man who takes his faith seriously while not always being fluent in “Christianese” and, unlike so many of his predecessors, a politician who has kept his promises to faith voters and evangelical Christian groups after he won the presidency with the help of their votes. [...]
Ms. White repeatedly insists in an interview that Mr. Trump’s spiritual growth in the 18 years she has known him “comes from a much deeper place” than the so-called “prosperity theology” — the belief that spiritual and financial success are part of God’s plan for believing Christians — that detractors accuse him of following.
“He holds his faith close to his chest and is not as open about it as some people,” she said.
“When he first talked of running for president, he was a career businessman who was new to campaigning and didn’t know how to speak what I call ‘Christianese,’” she recalled. “But I actually liked that about him, then and now — he wasn’t a polished politician or preacher. When he spoke of his faith, he was speaking from the heart.” Whole aqrticle: https://tinyurl.com/y72d52l9
@fmf saidNever heard of the term.
'Personal pastor' Paula White says Trump serious about faith -- even if not fluent in "Christianese"
[quote]The Donald Trump that Florida evangelical minister Paula White sees is a good listener, a man who takes his faith seriously while not always being fluent in “Christianese” and, unlike so many of his predecessors, a politician who has kept his promises to faith vot ...[text shortened]... luency in "Christianese" significant? Is there some kind of minimum requirement ~ if so, what is it?
@divegeester said<Personally I wouldn’t take any notice of Paula White>
Never heard of the term.
Personally I wouldn’t take any notice of Paula White or any of the American “prosperity” TV evangelists.
@fmf saidKnowledge of God's Word and the practice of applying it the heart and personal conduct.
'Personal pastor' Paula White says Trump serious about faith -- even if not fluent in "Christianese"
[quote]The Donald Trump that Florida evangelical minister Paula White sees is a good listener, a man who takes his faith seriously while not always being fluent in “Christianese” and, unlike so many of his predecessors, a politician who has kept his promises to faith vot ...[text shortened]... luency in "Christianese" significant? Is there some kind of minimum requirement ~ if so, what is it?
@divegeester saidNo mature Christian does.
Never heard of the term.
Personally I wouldn’t take any notice of Paula White or any of the American “prosperity” TV evangelists.
@divegeester saidI could be mistaken, but I am pretty sure Paula White is not a proponent of “prosperity theology”.
Personally I wouldn’t take any notice of Paula White or any of the American “prosperity” TV evangelists.
@fmf saidIts a communication issue, I didn't become a Christian until my mid twenties, until
'Personal pastor' Paula White says Trump serious about faith -- even if not fluent in "Christianese"
[quote]The Donald Trump that Florida evangelical minister Paula White sees is a good listener, a man who takes his faith seriously while not always being fluent in “Christianese” and, unlike so many of his predecessors, a politician who has kept his promises to faith vot ...[text shortened]... luency in "Christianese" significant? Is there some kind of minimum requirement ~ if so, what is it?
@fmf saidDon’t confuse tiger with facts. He’s hung over and his left ear is still ringing from a pub trollop slapping him.
I could be mistaken, but I am pretty sure Paula White is not a proponent of “prosperity theology”.
@fmf saidNot sure personally, but according to Wikipedia she is.
I could be mistaken, but I am pretty sure Paula White is not a proponent of “prosperity theology”.
@philokalia saidYou “don’t know” and are just speculating... but you think that whatever it is that you “don’t know” is “tied in with my (alleged) heresy about a completely different subject altogether?
There's some obligation to be informed and to prayer.
There is no obligation to do these things super publicly because that would quickly escalate into vainglorious displays like as a Pharisee.
But sure, IDK...
This ties in a bit with the issue of Dive's heresy in the sense that... To what degree does someone have to be doctrinally sound and dogmatic.
IDK.
@divegeester saidYour heresy is not alleged. It's absolutely factual by the canons of the Orthodox or Catholic church, and the statements of faith and doctrines found in every single Protestant church I really know of.
You “don’t know” and are just speculating... but you think that whatever it is that you “don’t know” is “tied in with my (alleged) heresy about a completely different subject altogether?
But then you “don’t know” again.
@philokalia saidWhat is this "hellfire", according to your beliefs? What does it entail?
But the Book of Revelations does imply that anyoen that takes away from the book (the Gospels as a whole) is in grave danger of hellfire.
@philokalia saidFirstly I don’t recognise the cannons of the orthodox or Catholic Churches as being anything other that a construct of corporate religiosity.
Your heresy is not alleged. It's absolutely factual by the canons of the Orthodox or Catholic church, and the statements of faith and doctrines found in every single Protestant church I really know of. Your heresy is a sign not only of ignorance, but the belief that you can actually question the Bible, which is pretty extreme.