@ghost-of-a-duke saidGoaD is going to continue try to pretend that he knew all along what DT had to explain to him after GoaD had asked the following:
This is not the first time I have posted about your tiresome:
'while He walked the Earth' to strip away any hint of the supernatural or miraculous, and yet still fail to explain why this Earth walking man told people He was sent by God.'
It is disingenuous of you to pretend otherwise. (No surprise there).
If your 'while He walked the Earth' truly was a way of ...[text shortened]... of course you refuse to do).
(Now, of course, you will just cut and paste your previous post).
Is the 'while He walked the Earth' really necessary?
Do you do that when you reference Einstein,..while he walked the Earth?
That he has even stooped so low as to make a charge of disingenuousness on my part comes as no surprise. It's what he does. It's what trolls with an utter lack of integrity do.
Regardless, glad that the penny finally dropped for him.
@ThinkOfOne
When I ask 'YOU' why you use 'while He walked the Earth' you are fully aware that there are follow-up questions awaiting your honest response. This is how the conversation would go if you had a backbone:
Ghost - "Why do you always say 'while He walked the Earth when referring to Jesus?"
ToO - "Because I don't believe any of that spiritual/miraculous stuff they wrapped around the ministry of Jesus."
Ghost - "Ah, so Jesus was just a man who delivered a profound message?"
ToO - "Yes"
Ghost - "So He wasn't sent by God?"
ToO - "No."
Ghost - "So eh, why did Jesus say He was?!"
ToO - "Eh,....can I get back to you on that?"
Instead, you disingenuously pretend you are unaware of my intent to dodge a conversation you know makes your position look ridiculous.
@thinkofone saidYou don’t post anything that your able to discuss on why what you say is important. If the Jesus you accept died and remained dead his words would have as much truth to them than the next guy, and everyone else!
It also means the one here who is suggesting this is a gutless puke that cannot admit his views while attacking others for their faith.
Yet somehow you're the one who - when unable to formulate even a reasonable argument against what I post (no less a cogent one) - resorts to juvenile ad homs like here.
I advocate for the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.
You believe in a very different gospel.
Why do you so hate truth?
The only reasons Jesus Christ matters is who He is really, why He was sent, what He was here to do, and God raised Him from the dead.
Your Jesus is dust due to the death he underwent, without power to help anyone, or hold anyone accountable.
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@thinkofone saidGoaD continues to pretend that he knew all along what DT had to explain to him after GoaD had asked the following:
GoaD is going to continue try to pretend that he knew all along what DT had to explain to him after GoaD had asked the following:Is the 'while He walked the Earth' really necessary?
Do you do that when you reference Einstein,..while he walked the Earth?
That he has even stooped so low as to make a charge of disingenuousness on my part comes as no su ...[text shortened]... lls with an utter lack of integrity do.
Regardless, glad that the penny finally dropped for him.
Is the 'while He walked the Earth' really necessary?
Do you do that when you reference Einstein,..while he walked the Earth?
No matter what feebleminded spin GoaD tries to put on it, the fact remains that he was unable to understand the concept that DT felt compelled to explain to him.
If GoaD remains true to form, he'll make yet another disingenuous attempt to spin it.
Regardless, glad that the penny finally dropped for him.
@thinkofone saidMore predictable repetition to dodge a conversation you know makes your position look ridiculous.
GoaD continues to pretend that he knew all along what DT had to explain to him after GoaD had asked the following:Is the 'while He walked the Earth' really necessary?
Do you do that when you reference Einstein,..while he walked the Earth?
No matter what feebleminded spin GoaD tries to put on it, the fact remains that he was unable to understand the ...[text shortened]... another disingenuous attempt to spin it.
Regardless, glad that the penny finally dropped for him.
Again, when Jesus said He was sent by God, was he lying?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
@ThinkOfOne
As an aside, after 13 years of active posting in this forum, are you at all embarrassed that posters you interact with on a daily basis about spirituality still have no idea whether you're a theist or an atheist?
How does this reflect on your honesty and openness? (Or integrity? )
@kellyjay saidI understand.
You don’t post anything that your able to discuss on why what you say is important. If the Jesus you accept died and remained dead his words would have as much truth to them than the next guy, and everyone else!
The only reasons Jesus Christ matters is who He is really, why He was sent, what He was here to do, and God raised Him from the dead.
Your Jesus is dust due to the death he underwent, without power to help anyone, or hold anyone accountable.
You believe the mythology of the gospel that those other than Jesus preached. In your mind, Jesus' words only have "as much truth to them than the next guy" if it is not wrapped in that mythology.
Jesus thought otherwise:
John 6
63“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidLo and belold, GoaD has remained true to form and had made yet another disingenuous attempt to spin it as predicted. That he has once again stooped so low as to make a charge of disingenuousness on my part comes as no surprise. It's what he does. It's what trolls with an utter lack of integrity do. Evidently GoaD is an adherent of the Donald Trump playbook.
More predictable repetition to dodge a conversation you know makes your position look ridiculous.
Again, when Jesus said He was sent by God, was he lying?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
Like I said:
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GoaD continues to pretend that he knew all along what DT had to explain to him after GoaD had asked the following:
Is the 'while He walked the Earth' really necessary?
Do you do that when you reference Einstein,..while he walked the Earth?
No matter what feebleminded spin GoaD tries to put on it, the fact remains that he was unable to understand the concept that DT felt compelled to explain to him.
If GoaD remains true to form, he'll make yet another disingenuous attempt to spin it.
Regardless, glad that the penny finally dropped for him.
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@thinkofone saidComing from a dead guy doesn’t carry any weight, but from the Son of God it does.
I understand.
You believe the mythology of the gospel that those other than Jesus preached. In your mind, Jesus' words only have "as much truth to them than the next guy" if it is not wrapped in that mythology.
Jesus thought otherwise:
John 6
63“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
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@kellyjay saidJesus called His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God.
Coming from a dead guy doesn’t carry any weight, but from the Son of God it does.
Matthew 5
9“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
If you understood the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth, you'd have understood this. But you didn't. You believe in a gospel preached by those other than Jesus.
@ghost-of-a-duke saidSelective responding, hey ToO?
@ThinkOfOne
As an aside, after 13 years of active posting in this forum, are you at all embarrassed that posters you interact with on a daily basis about spirituality still have no idea whether you're a theist or an atheist?
How does this reflect on your honesty and openness? (Or integrity? )
@thinkofone saidThe thing that you are rejecting is that Jesus when He was walking the earth was able to teach His own deciples the gospel about Him. The other thing you are completely missing is Jesus said He was sending one like Him to be our Helper and Comforter to be with us, in us teaching us who if we are without do not belong to God.
Jesus called His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God.
Matthew 5
9“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
If you understood the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth, you'd have understood this. But you didn't. You believe in a gospel preached by those other than Jesus.
Your private gospel message starts and ends with you. While the gospel of Jesus Christ has been shared by God’s people from the time Jesus walked on the planet and has continued because God raised Jesus from the dead.
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@kellyjay saidThe other thing you are completely missing is Jesus said He was sending one like Him to be our Helper and Comforter to be with us...
The thing that you are rejecting is that Jesus when He was walking the earth was able to teach His own deciples the gospel about Him. The other thing you are completely missing is Jesus said He was sending one like Him to be our Helper and Comforter to be with us, in us teaching us who if we are without do not belong to God.
Your private gospel message starts and ends wit ...[text shortened]... e from the time Jesus walked on the planet and has continued because God raised Jesus from the dead.
Just as you didn't understand that Jesus called His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God, you also fail to understand that only those who KEEP His commandments (cease to sin) have the Spirit of Truth which is there to remind them of the words Jesus spoke while He walked the Earth.
John 14
16“I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; 17that is the Spirit of truth...
23...“If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
24“He who does not love Me does not keep My words...
26“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.
What's telling is that I keep citing the words Jesus spoke while He walked the Earth to back up my position, while you only seem to be able to do no more than regurgitate the dogma that you have been taught. A dogma that is contrary to the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.
@thinkofone saidI don’t disagree that we are to stop sinning never have. Do you have God’s Holy Spirit within you?
The other thing you are completely missing is Jesus said He was sending one like Him to be our Helper and Comforter to be with us...
Just as you didn't understand that Jesus called His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God, you also fail to understand that only those who KEEP His commandments (cease to sin) have the Spirit of Truth which is there ...[text shortened]... , while you only seem to be able to do no more than regurgitate the dogma that you have been taught.
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@kellyjay saidYou've side-stepped the points. Here they are again:
I don’t disagree that we are to stop sinning never have. Do you have God’s Holy Spirit within you?
<<Just as you didn't understand that Jesus called His followers to become sons of God as He was a son of God, you also fail to understand that only those who KEEP His commandments (cease to sin) have the Spirit of Truth which is there to remind them of the words Jesus spoke while He walked the Earth.
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<<What's telling is that I keep citing the words Jesus spoke while He walked the Earth to back up my position, while you only seem to be able to do no more than regurgitate the dogma that you have been taught. A dogma that is contrary to the gospel preached by Jesus while He walked the Earth.
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