1. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    22 Dec '11 18:37
    Originally posted by mikelom
    I can't agree that the day of losing one's mother is a 'glorious' day, no matter the circumstances GB.

    And even though you say you were prepared, were you not with her and her deceased being through those moments?

    No matter the ifs or buts, but being there and holding and being present would surmount any compassion I have, would have had under such cir ...[text shortened]... for being online and posting at RHP.

    Can't you see even that outline of respect?

    -m.
    We were separated by 1,100 miles, Mike. Of course there's a time to mourn and a longing

    to be with loved ones again... never a time for a guy's emotions to vibrate uncontrollably.

    gb
  2. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    22 Dec '11 18:42
    Originally posted by Agerg
    [b]Sin is abhorrent to God. Period.
    and since "Sin" means nothing more than *that which "God" doesn't like* then the above can be paraphrased as:

    The doing of anything which "God" doesn't like is abhorrent to "God"

    That doesn't excuse him from being a dick[/b]
    You, Sir, appear to be struggling with the basic acceptance of authority. If we replaced the words

    'sin' with 'tos violation' and 'God' with 'Russ', would you accuse Russ of being a "d___" in public?


    gb
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    22 Dec '11 18:452 edits
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    You, Sir, appear to be struggling with the basic acceptance of authority. If we replaced the words

    'sin' with 'tos violation' and 'God' with 'Russ', would you accuse Russ of being a "d___" in public?


    gb
    I would indeed call Russ a dick if he created a site along with a TOS for which mere usage of the site directly causes a violation of the TOS and then he tortured people for violating terms of service.
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    22 Dec '11 19:04
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    We were separated by 1,100 miles, Mike. Of course there's a time to mourn and a longing

    to be with loved ones again... never a time for a guy's emotions to vibrate uncontrollably.

    gb
    Your glorious day was/is:

    ---

    Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.

    And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.

    And how else can it be?

    The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.

    Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven?

    And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives?

    When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy.

    When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight.

    Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater."

    But I say unto you, they are inseparable.

    Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.

    Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy.

    Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced.

    When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.

    Kahlil Gibran.

    ---

    As for a guy's emotions not to vibrate? Did you never vibrate in love?

    -m.
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    22 Dec '11 19:361 edit
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Your glorious day was/is:

    ---

    Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.

    And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.

    And how else can it be?

    The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.

    Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's o n.

    ---

    As for a guy's emotions not to vibrate? Did you never vibrate in love?

    -m.
    but if you eliminate all of your suffering and reach that "standstill" - it also means eliminating your joy

    is this really the best way?
  6. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    22 Dec '11 19:38
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Your glorious day was/is:

    ---

    Your joy is your sorrow unmasked.

    And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears.

    And how else can it be?

    The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.

    Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's o ...[text shortened]... n.

    ---

    As for a guy's emotions not to vibrate? Did you never vibrate in love?

    -m.
    Nice. Reference to emotions was in context of personal loss and adversity,

    not the joys of intimate romantic rapport and fulfilling love. Back on track.


    😉
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    22 Dec '11 19:50
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    but if you eliminate all of your suffering and reach that "standstill" - it also means eliminating your joy

    is this really the best way?
    There was no aforementioned standstill.

    Being carved into by suffering and not only one's own, but those of others also, enables the ability to work against that suffering - with knowledge and experience - enabling more joy all around.

    That is 'one' way.

    -m.
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    22 Dec '11 20:00
    Originally posted by mikelom
    There was no aforementioned standstill.

    Being carved into by suffering and not only one's own, but those of others also, enables the ability to work against that suffering - with knowledge and experience - enabling more joy all around.

    That is 'one' way.

    -m.
    In music, there's something about performers who "have the world written on their face" -- they seem to produce some of the most "joyful" music precisely because they have suffered. Johnny Cash comes to mind.
  9. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    22 Dec '11 21:33
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    In music, there's something about performers who "have the world written on their face" -- they seem to produce some of the most "joyful" music precisely because they have suffered. Johnny Cash comes to mind.
    Thumbs Up.
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    22 Dec '11 23:44
    Originally posted by Melanerpes
    In music, there's something about performers who "have the world written on their face" -- they seem to produce some of the most "joyful" music precisely because they have suffered. Johnny Cash comes to mind.
    Similarly, this is what made the blues such great music.
  11. Standard memberRJHinds
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    23 Dec '11 02:00
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    No, he doesn't. He says "Obey me, because if you go against my will, then you go to hell when you die." That threat doesn't give me a choice.
    In this sense he is not a god of love, but a revencheful god.
    Why would you want to do anything that would not please our Father
    in Heaven?
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    23 Dec '11 02:01
    Originally posted by Agerg
    [b]Sin is abhorrent to God. Period.
    and since "Sin" means nothing more than *that which "God" doesn't like* then the above can be paraphrased as:

    The doing of anything which "God" doesn't like is abhorrent to "God"

    That doesn't excuse him from being a dick[/b]
    You probably did not obey your earthly father either.
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    23 Dec '11 03:49
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Did you mean He is a vengeful God? Of course He is, to those who would sin against Him. Sin is abhorrent to God. Period.
    And you know that how? You think you know the mind of your god because of your bible?
  14. Standard memberAgerg
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    23 Dec '11 09:392 edits
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    You probably did not obey your earthly father either.
    You are wrong 😞
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