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    11 May '06 15:40
    Hinduism is the oldest known religion (5000 years old), Buddhism is 3, 500, Christianity 2000 and Islam 1,500.... Within an evolutionary perspective, logically we should be getting nearer the truth (what ever that maybe) but we seem to be getting nowhere, our world religous views change but remain merely philosphies for living life rather than revelations incorparating an intrinsic truth....If science and technology evole why doesn't religion?
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    11 May '06 15:43
    Buddhism is about 2,600 years old, just to clarify.
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    11 May '06 15:46
    Originally posted by eagles54
    Buddhism is about 2,600 years old, just to clarify.
    Are you seroius!!!
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    11 May '06 15:48
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Hinduism is the oldest known religion (5000 years old), Buddhism is 3, 500, Christianity 2000 and Islam 1,500.... Within an evolutionary perspective, logically we should be getting nearer the truth (what ever that maybe) but we seem to be getting nowhere, our world religous views change but remain merely philosphies for living life rather than revelations incorparating an intrinsic truth....If science and technology evole why doesn't religion?
    Where did you get your numbers from??

    Buddhism is only about 500 years older than Christianity. The origins of Hinduism are unknown, but the Aryans only came to India around 1500 BCE.
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    11 May '06 15:48
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Are you seroius!!!
    Of course he is.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism
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    11 May '06 15:49
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Are you seroius!!!
    Well, going by the time of the birth of the historical Buddha, which is about 563 years before the birth of Christ, then yes.
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    11 May '06 15:52
    Originally posted by eagles54
    Well, going by the time of the birth of the historical Buddha, which is about 563 years before the birth of Christ, then yes.
    Why did I have 3, 500 in my head, anyway I stand correctd, never the less, why has religion evolved?
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    Direct perception of the indivisibility of relative and ultimate truth is very difficult indeed, and it is not within the scope of most persons, who are inextricably bound in ego-clinging, to know it experientially.

    That's why we are "getting nowhere."
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    11 May '06 15:59
    Originally posted by eagles54
    Direct perception of the indivisibility of relative and ultimate truth is very difficult indeed, and it is not within the scope of most persons, who are inextricably bound in ego-clinging, to know it experientially.

    That's why we are "getting nowhere."
    Yes but Western philosphy has evolved if we Compare Nietzsche or Wittgeinstein with say Plato. And philosphy is tied to the indivisibility of relative and ultimate truth,
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    11 May '06 16:01
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Yes but Western philosphy has evolved if we Compare Nietzsche or Wittgeinstein with say Plato. And philosphy is tied to the indivisibility of relative and ultimate truth,
    Using philosophy, no matter how sophisticated, to know truth directly is like scratching the bottom of your shoe when your foot itches.
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    11 May '06 16:04
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Yes but Western philosphy has evolved if we Compare Nietzsche or Wittgeinstein with say Plato. And philosphy is tied to the indivisibility of relative and ultimate truth,
    Some modern philosophers (Heidegger, I think) believe that Western philosophy has gotten nowhere since Plato.
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    12 May '06 10:07
    So western philosphy and religion , (shall we place them both under the banner of metaphysics) has gotten nowhere in the last 5000 years (for religion) and 2000 years (for western philosphy) ?!
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    12 May '06 10:15
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Yes but Western philosphy has evolved if we Compare Nietzsche or Wittgeinstein with say Plato. And philosphy is tied to the indivisibility of relative and ultimate truth,
    Nietzsche and Wittgenstein are about the worst possible examples you could have chosen if you want to show "evolution" in philosophy.
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    12 May '06 10:23
    Originally posted by dottewell
    Nietzsche and Wittgenstein are about the worst possible examples you could have chosen if you want to show "evolution" in philosophy.
    Evolution in philosophy...a terrible idea. But who would you choose as better examples?
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    12 May '06 10:33
    Originally posted by Vladamir no1
    Hinduism is the oldest known religion (5000 years old), Buddhism is 3, 500, Christianity 2000 and Islam 1,500.... Within an evolutionary perspective, logically we should be getting nearer the truth (what ever that maybe) but we seem to be getting nowhere, our world religous views change but remain merely philosphies for living life rather than revelations incorparating an intrinsic truth....If science and technology evole why doesn't religion?
    You are making assumptions that:
    1. Religions ultimate goal is to find an intrinsic truth.
    2. Such a thing as an intrinsic truth exists.
    3. That only major religions are important.
    4. That evolution applies to religion.
    5. That 90% of the world, athiest or otherwise, who think that they have found the intrinsic truth are all wrong.
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