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Originally posted by 7ate9So why was rape OK then? Are you admiting that the laws were incorrect or are you implying that some things that are considered totally unaceptable today (like rape to obtain a wife) would have been perfectly OK and unsinfull if committed circa 1000BC?
The point is a lot of those Old Testament laws were made for then(whatever then means), and not now.
Originally posted by twhiteheadRead above 😠(and get your facts straight!).
So why was rape OK then? Are you admiting that the laws were incorrect or are you implying that some things that are considered totally unaceptable today (like rape to obtain a wife) would have been perfectly OK and unsinfull if committed circa 1000BC?
Originally posted by NemesioI agree with most of that. Will get back to you.
Originally posted by sjeg
[b]On sins, I'd say what happened to venal and mortal etc.? I think there are grades of sin.
You won't find such classifications in the Bible. What you will find is that liars, drunkards,
homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, murderers, and so forth are constantly lumped
together. Jesus makes clear that ...[text shortened]... on a minority group and using the Bible as justification for hate.
Nemesio[/b]
Originally posted by sjegIt was 7ate9 who got the facts wrong. However my point still stands. He belives that some old testament laws however cruel were acceptable at the time but are no longer so. I just wanted to know how the morality of it all changed.
Read above 😠(and get your facts straight!).
Originally posted by NemesioYou could also refuse to speak and trust in the Lord that you will be protected. Are you implying that it is OK to lie for the greater good? I know a lot of politicians that use that excuse. Are you saying that one sin is OK if it counteracts a greater sin? How do you measure these sins?
So what's God going to do? Throw you in hell for lying? I just don't see a just God doing such a
thing. I think God is going to say something like, 'Look, you know what I meant. You did the
right thing even though you disobeyed my explicit command, because you sowed love where there
was hate. You protected the weak, you comforted the afflicted.
Originally posted by twhiteheadWhere is it written, even in the Old Testament, where there is lots of gruesome stuff, that rape is ok?
So why was rape OK then? Are you admiting that the laws were incorrect or are you implying that some things that are considered totally unaceptable today (like rape to obtain a wife) would have been perfectly OK and unsinfull if committed circa 1000BC?
Originally posted by NemesioWell said Nemesio.
There is no one just, not one, there is no one who understands, there
is no one who seeks God. All have gone astray; all alike are
worthless; there is not one who does good, even one. Romans 10b-12.
...
...Why isn't there a group called 'God Hate Men Who Marry Divorced Women?'
Why aren't they picketting at weddings, too?
Nemesio
Originally posted by NemesioWhere are the protesters to the tax legislation which cuts welfare (Jesus wasn't interested in what is 'fair' for the world, that those who have should give unconditionally to those who have not)?
Originally posted by sjeg
On sins, I'd say what happened to venal and mortal etc.? I think there are grades of sin.
You won't find such classifications in the Bible. What you will find is that liars, drunkards,
homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, murderers, and so forth are constantly lumped
together. Jesus makes clear that the ...[text shortened]... on a minority group and using the Bible as justification for hate.
Nemesio[/b]
Originally posted by Nemesiowhy do they choose this particular (small) subset of unbelievers and not the larger subsets which have a more dramatic impact on society as a whole?
Originally posted by FreakyKBH
Not exactly. While He clearly gave His followers a view of what the heart was supposed to look like, by no means was that condition meant to be foisted upon unbelievers, let alone corporate bodies.
Well, if Phelps Klux Klan is asserting that they are believers, and they
are picketting the actions of so-called u ...[text shortened]... t.
Well, at least we agree on one thing.
Kyrie eleison.
Nemesio[/b]
Originally posted by Nemesio"You won't find such classifications in the Bible."
Originally posted by sjeg
[b]On sins, I'd say what happened to venal and mortal etc.? I think there are grades of sin.
You won't find such classifications in the Bible. What you will find is that liars, drunkards,
homosexuals, fornicators, adulterers, thieves, murderers, and so forth are constantly lumped
together. Jesus makes clear that ...[text shortened]... on a minority group and using the Bible as justification for hate.
Nemesio[/b]