God hates sinners: true or false

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The goal of the God of the Bible is to destroy sin.

In the OT, God's people were ordered to destroy the sinner to destroy the sin.

In the NT through the blood of Christ many sinners were able to destroy the sin in their lives, instead of destroying the sinner.

Therefore, to say in the OT that God hates the sinner is partially true. IF he truly hated the sinner, then Christ would have never come, but at that time they still needed to destroy the sinner to help stop the spread of sins within the community that would ultimately have destroyed them all.

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Psalm 11:2
For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.

Verse 5
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth

Psalm 5:5,6
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Context context context.

@whodey said
In the NT through the blood of Christ many sinners were able to destroy the sin in their lives, instead of destroying the sinner.

OSAS Christians declare themselves "forgiven" for their "sins", "born again", and irreversibly "saved" and headed for the reward of everlasting life ~ even if they "sin". There are Christians - like KellyJay - declaring that they are every bit as "wicked and evil" as I am, and they admit that they continue to "sin", and yet they declare they are "saved" regardless. How can this possibly be characterized as them being "able to destroy the sin in their lives"?

@FMF

OSAS Christians declare themselves "forgiven" for their "sins", "born again", and irreversibly "saved" and headed for the reward of everlasting life ~ even if they "sin". There are Christians - like KellyJay - declaring that they are every bit as "wicked and evil" as I am, and they admit that they continue to "sin", and yet they declare they are "saved" regardless. How can this possibly be characterized as them being "able to destroy the sin in their lives"?

You have a problem with very, very low self esteem, I think.
I wonder how much of your negative reaction to the Christian gospel is fueled by low self esteem fighting desperately.

Like " I'm so perfect, you see? I cannot afford any hint of being wrong in anything in any way. Regardless of how much even God loves me or can heal me."

I mean your self esteem is so precariously low that you cannot afford any criticism.
The tiniest bit of suggestion of you not being just already perfect invokes a wild reaction like a man drowning and fighting for air.

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As usual nothing to say about what the Bible says.

Only troll bile.

@whodey said
The goal of the God of the Bible is to destroy sin.

In the OT, God's people were ordered to destroy the sinner to destroy the sin.

In the NT through the blood of Christ many sinners were able to destroy the sin in their lives, instead of destroying the sinner.

Therefore, to say in the OT that God hates the sinner is partially true. IF he truly hated the sinner, then ...[text shortened]... to help stop the spread of sins within the community that would ultimately have destroyed them all.

God is good, so He reached out to the human race sending His Son for us. Like the
time He saved the people from the serpents those that looked to God's solution
didn't die, those that didn't did. Jesus is here to save us, but those that don't accept
Him are condemned already.

If this is the way God chose to save us, why complain? Those who find fault in
God's solution what would they have God do, ignore sin, give grace to those that
reject God's salvation wanting nothing to do with God? Would they want God
to force them into salvation even if they don't want anything to do with it? Would
they have a holy, just, good God to just overlook sin and cease to be holy, just,
and good? Are any here so arrogant they think are so important they can tell or
demand God should yield to what they think? Satan fell for such pride and arrogance.

@sonship said
You have a problem with very, very low self esteem, I think.
I wonder how much of your negative reaction to the Christian gospel is fueled by low self esteem fighting desperately.

I don't have a problem with self-esteem. The specific reasons for my reactions to what Christians at RHP claim are in my posts.

@sonship said
I mean your self esteem is so precariously low that you cannot afford any criticism.
The tiniest bit of suggestion of you not being just already perfect invokes a wild reaction like a man drowning and fighting for air.

These personal remarks are mere deflection and have no effect on my self-esteem, sonship. You are dodging the content of the post that you are 'replying' to. It was about the ideology you espouse and not whether or not I am "perfect" or "wild" or "drowning" or "fighting for air" etc.

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Aren't we all sinners?
Does god hate us all?

@fmf said
These personal remarks are mere deflection and have no effect on my self-esteem, sonship. You are dodging the content of the post that you are 'replying' to. It was about the ideology you espouse and not whether or not I am "perfect" or "wild" or "drowning" or "fighting for air" etc.

We understand.
But these are not personal remarks about anyone ?

There are Christians - like KellyJay - declaring that they are every bit as "wicked and evil" as I am, and they admit that they continue to "sin", and yet they declare they are "saved" regardless. How can this possibly be characterized as them being "able to destroy the sin in their lives"?

Ie. "Let me dish it out. But don't anyone dish it out to me, FMF."

@sonship said
We understand.
But these are not personal remarks about anyone ?

There are Christians - like KellyJay - declaring that they are every bit as "wicked and evil" as I am, and they admit that they continue to "sin", and yet they declare they are "saved" regardless. How can this possibly be characterized as them being "able to destroy the sin in their lives"?

Ie. "Let me dish it out. But don't anyone dish it out to me, FMF."

Your personal remarks do no address my remarks about the ideology under scrutiny. I am not trying to "dish" anything out. It is you who is trying to do that. You've now posted 2-3 times in 'reply' to my observations and you are still dodging what I said.