Originally posted by 667joeThis no more suggests the non-existence of God than the assertion on the "Logic and Reason" tread supports the existence of God. Both are really poorly considered arguments. Hopefully you don't really believe what you've presented here unlike the presenter of the "Logic and Reason" thread who seems to be sincere.
Because god in theory can do anything, it would be fair to say, he could be a baseball player. Could god the pitcher strike out god the batter?
Originally posted by 667joeThere are some who say that their god “transcends” logic—which generally suggests to me no more than that their god might be illogical.
Because god in theory can do anything, it would be fair to say, he could be a baseball player. Could god the pitcher strike out god the batter?
Most theists on here, however, are not of the “god can both be real and not be real” variety…
Originally posted by 667joeThe premise is wrong. God in theory cannot be illogical - or it would destroy the concept of 'theory'. Most Theists that have taken the time to consider the situation believe in a God that at most can do only what is logically possible. They frequently believe that what is logically possible may exceed what we believe is logically possible, but that is another matter. For example God may be able to conceive of a scenario in which he could strike out himself: actually, even I can think of such a scenario - one in which God is not required to win.
Because god in theory can do anything, it would be fair to say, he could be a baseball player. Could god the pitcher strike out god the batter?
Originally posted by 667joeI like rwingett's answer the best.
Because god in theory can do anything, it would be fair to say, he could be a baseball player. Could god the pitcher strike out god the batter?
But here's mine anyhow. The result would depend on who has the most natural advantage in the game. If God strikes out, then it shows that the conditions of baseball naturally favor the pitcher. If God gets a hit, it shows the conditions naturally favor the hitter.
I'm reminded of H. Alexander's quote - "If God played the Benoni against God, white would win." - his way of saying that he believed the Benoni was fundamentally unsound with perfect play.