1. Donationbuckky
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    On both sides of the religious issue I find very good people just trying to figure the whole thing out. It's rare to run across truely evil people. I can't think of a soul I have ever known that in my opinion deserves Hell. Most humans, including myself are hopelessly human, and want to find Truth what ever that might be. Obviously we are in the dark as to the nature of the afterlife. All we have are a few books claiming to have the Truth, and they all seem to disagree with each other. Could our planet be cut off from the spiritual circuits that flow throughout universe because of the Lucifer rebellion ? Something is out of wack or we would have a more coherant direction to follow.
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    Originally posted by buckky
    On both sides of the religious issue I find very good people just trying to figure the whole thing out. It's rare to run across truely evil people. I can't think of a soul I have ever known that in my opinion deserves Hell. Most humans, including myself are hopelessly human, and want to find Truth what ever that might be. Obviously we are in the dark as to th ...[text shortened]... fer rebellion ? Something is out of wack or we would have a more coherant direction to follow.
    I think a lot of people will be very surprised to find out that there are no heaven, nor hell, nor a afterlife at all.
    When they are dead they will be very surprised to find out that... 😵
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    12 Mar '09 12:05
    Originally posted by buckky
    Could our planet be cut off from the spiritual circuits that flow throughout universe because of the Lucifer rebellion ?
    I am curious. Which of the books talks about 'spiritual circuits'?
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    12 Mar '09 12:132 edits
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    I think a lot of people will be very surprised to find out that there are no heaven, nor hell, nor a afterlife at all.
    When they are dead they will be very surprised to find out that... 😵
    Well, there is no reason to believe dead people have the ability to be surprised about something.😛
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    12 Mar '09 12:16
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Well, there is no reason to believe dead people have the ability to be surprised about something.😛
    That's right. There are no afterlife to be surprised in.
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    12 Mar '09 12:20
    Originally posted by buckky
    On both sides of the religious issue I find very good people just trying to figure the whole thing out.
    What are these "both sides of the religious issue"? Surely "the religious issue" or "religious issues" are for religious people? Are you talking about two factions amongst them? I am curious as to what those faction are.
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    12 Mar '09 16:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    What are these "both sides of the religious issue"? Surely "the religious issue" or "religious issues" are for religious people? Are you talking about two factions amongst them? I am curious as to what those faction are.
    How many different idea's on the Christian thing are there ? The Hindhus seem to splinter off into hundreds of different sects. Buddhism is a many faced religion. The muslems are all over the place with all kinds of seperate views on belief. Of course the athiest has his own idea's about this or that, but they too know nothing about the afterlife. We are cut off from knowing anything about such issues it seems. Feeling is all we are left with. I feel there must be a higher power. I know nothing about the specifics. It's just a feeling, and not being able to the buy into the universe is just one big accident or fluke. That really seems nut's to me.
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    12 Mar '09 16:46
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I am curious. Which of the books talks about 'spiritual circuits'?
    Sorry I slipped that in. It's talked about in the Urantia Book. They talk of being cut of from the normal spiritual commincations that so called normal planets have. We are somewhat left in the dark about a lot of things because of the Lucifer Rebellion. I know will never hold water in the Bible only crowd, but there it is.
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    12 Mar '09 17:513 edits
    Originally posted by buckky
    On both sides of the religious issue I find very good people just trying to figure the whole thing out. It's rare to run across truely evil people. I can't think of a soul I have ever known that in my opinion deserves Hell. Most humans, including myself are hopelessly human, and want to find Truth what ever that might be. Obviously we are in the dark as to th ...[text shortened]... fer rebellion ? Something is out of wack or we would have a more coherant direction to follow.
    What I hear from you is that if there is a God, he would want us to be "good". We should be good to each other and good to our God. I would agree and I think most people would. In addition, I feel as though you have an innate sense that a God exists. I think most people would even agree with this belief also.

    I would be curious to know what your criterea for being "good" is, however.
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    12 Mar '09 18:09
    Originally posted by buckky
    Sorry I slipped that in. It's talked about in the Urantia Book. They talk of being cut of from the normal spiritual commincations that so called normal planets have. We are somewhat left in the dark about a lot of things because of the Lucifer Rebellion. I know will never hold water in the Bible only crowd, but there it is.
    You don't appear to subscribe to any particular book. Do you give some books more credit than others? Do you give any credit to Norse mythology for example? Have you considered that this could all be Jupiters fault?
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    12 Mar '09 22:25
    Originally posted by whodey
    What I hear from you is that if there is a God, he would want us to be "good". We should be good to each other and good to our God. I would agree and I think most people would. In addition, I feel as though you have an innate sense that a God exists. I think most people would even agree with this belief also.

    I would be curious to know what your criterea for being "good" is, however.
    Being good seems to be nothing more then common sense. Look around you ,and it's obvious that doing the right thing is the best thing to do for all involved. Things go better with goodness. Evil or badness creates a negative space in the world. You really don't need the ten commandments to point you in the right direction. You know the right direction from a purely human level. Those that don't see the need for goodness are mentally ill.
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    12 Mar '09 22:26
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    You don't appear to subscribe to any particular book. Do you give some books more credit than others? Do you give any credit to Norse mythology for example? Have you considered that this could all be Jupiters fault?
    Face it, it's all up for grabs when it comes to what books have the truth ,and what does not. I guess it comes down to what makes sense to you.
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    13 Mar '09 02:08
    Originally posted by buckky
    Being good seems to be nothing more then common sense. Look around you ,and it's obvious that doing the right thing is the best thing to do for all involved. Things go better with goodness. Evil or badness creates a negative space in the world. You really don't need the ten commandments to point you in the right direction. You know the right direction from a purely human level. Those that don't see the need for goodness are mentally ill.
    So is abortion good or bad? Is war good or bad? Is wealth good or bad?

    Are you implying that the entire human race is mentally ill?
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    13 Mar '09 04:20
    Originally posted by whodey
    So is abortion good or bad? Is war good or bad? Is wealth good or bad?

    Are you implying that the entire human race is mentally ill?
    Everybody is nut's.
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    13 Mar '09 04:54
    Originally posted by buckky
    Face it, it's all up for grabs when it comes to what books have the truth ,and what does not. I guess it comes down to what makes sense to you.
    None of them make sense to me which is why I follow none of them. I find it interesting that you seem to find sense in some of them.
    Do "spiritual circuits that flow throughout universe" make sense to you?
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