24 May 06
It is graduation time. Here in Kentucky, a traditionally conservative state, there have been a rash of students (just a couple) who have objected to prayers at the graduation ceremony and have had the backing of the ACLU. The schools have willingly complied, but all are not happy.
The student body at Russell County Highschool booed the student who was perceived as objecting to it at the graduation rehearsal. They also broke out in reciting the Lord's prayer. Rev Lawless (no I didn't make this name up) was furious about the decision and organized protests.
Several questions:
How would the students and parents feel if a Muslim or Buddhist recited their prayers? Would that be acceptable?
Did the students show Christian charity as they booed this student?
Finally, if I went to a sectarian school such as Duke University where they will pray at graduation, would it be worth the $173,000 for a 4 year degree?
24 May 06
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Originally posted by kirksey957No, they just embarrassed themselves like a bunch of pharisees.
Did the students show Christian charity as they booed this student?
Political demonstration is not the purpose of prayer. They showed no more reverence of the Lord's Prayer than the student they were praying at did. They reduced its status to that of a football cheer.
24 May 06
Originally posted by kirksey957*There could be an inter-faith prayer session for all to pray at once. The noise would chase away any bad luck demons.
Several questions:
How would the students and parents feel if a Muslim or Buddhist recited their prayers? Would that be acceptable?
Finally, if I went to a sectarian school such as Duke University where they will pray at graduation, would it be worth the $173,000 for a 4 year degree?
*Good heavens. those fees are outrageous. You should apply to a foreign university! You could do a four-year stint at the University of Cape Town for around $15000...
24 May 06
Originally posted by Bosse de NageBut do they have strippers?
*There could be an inter-faith prayer session for all to pray at once. The noise would chase away any bad luck demons.
*Good heavens. those fees are outrageous. You should apply to a foreign university! You could do a four-year stint at the University of Cape Town for around $15000...
24 May 06
Originally posted by Bosse de NageThey solved that problem at Duke University. They go hire strippers who are students at the poor college in town (North Carolina Central) and help put them through school.
Chief Kirksey, if you mean strippers on campus, then sadly not. Strippers are plentiful in the city though and cheap.
26 May 06
Originally posted by kirksey957First a counter-question, then I'll take a stab at your ones.
It is graduation time. Here in Kentucky, a traditionally conservative state, there have been a rash of students (just a couple) who have objected to prayers at the graduation ceremony and have had the backing of the ACLU. The schools have willingly complied, but all are not happy.
The student body at Russell County Highschool booed the student who wa ...[text shortened]... ersity where they will pray at graduation, would it be worth the $173,000 for a 4 year degree?
Was there anything explicitly Christian about the prayers that were normally recited at graduation prior to this year?
To answer your questions:
1. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know enough about the residents of Kentucky to answer that question.
2. I would think not.
3. Is a degree anywhere worth that kind of money?
26 May 06
Originally posted by kirksey957It's sad isn't it when people feel the need to inflict their values and religion (or lack of) on others.
It is graduation time. Here in Kentucky, a traditionally conservative state, there have been a rash of students (just a couple) who have objected to prayers at the graduation ceremony and have had the backing of the ACLU. The schools have willingly complied, but all are not happy.
The student body at Russell County Highschool booed the student who wa ...[text shortened]... ersity where they will pray at graduation, would it be worth the $173,000 for a 4 year degree?
I saw a thing a while ago where a school tried to ban some pagans from wearing our symbols. It ended up that they were allowed to keep wearing them becuase of the laws there (freedom of religion) means Christians would have to stop wearing their crosses as well.
The people who stopped the praying, whatever religion, should be ashamed of themselves.
26 May 06
Originally posted by dagsI see a huge difference between wearing religious symbols and making prayer an official part of a graduation ceremony. In the first case, an individual expresses xyr religious beliefs, which in my opinion everybody should be allowed to do. In the second case, a religious ritual is forced on everybody participating in a non-religious ceremony.
It's sad isn't it when people feel the need to inflict their values and religion (or lack of) on others.
I saw a thing a while ago where a school tried to ban some pagans from wearing our symbols. It ended up that they were allowed to keep wearing them becuase of the laws there (freedom of religion) means Christians would have to stop wearing their crosses a ...[text shortened]... ll.
The people who stopped the praying, whatever religion, should be ashamed of themselves.
26 May 06
Originally posted by NordlysFair point.
I see a huge difference between wearing religious symbols and making prayer an official part of a graduation ceremony. In the first case, an individual expresses xyr religious beliefs, which in my opinion everybody should be allowed to do. In the second case, a religious ritual is forced on everybody participating in a non-religious ceremony.
But I still think that they could have just not joined in with the prayer or excused themselves for that part of the graduation. To me part of religion is tolerance but I do understand what you mean.