1. Standard memberBigDogg
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    @secondson said
    Well, if it makes sense to me, what's wrong with you? Right?

    By the way, "the problem of evil" isn't mine. It's the problem of those that don't understand or believe in the solution.
    It would appear you are not interested in actual discussion of your positions.

    Which is fine. If all you want out of this forum is to hear yourself talk, that is up to you.
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    @secondson said
    How is it a contradiction in character for an all-powerful and perfectly loving God to allow evil to exist?
    Either God can not prevent evil or He will not. If He can not then He is not all-powerful and if He will not then He is not perfectly loving. Due to the existence of evil, God can not be both.

    That's the general contradiction.
  3. Standard memberwolfgang59
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    I saw "Greek gods" and thought this thread would be about me.

    😢
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    @wolfgang59 said
    I saw "Greek gods" and thought this thread would be about me.

    😢
    You were indeed the inspiration behind the thread.
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    i've been tagged adonis
    i must admit it was heady
    i've also been tagged quasimodo
    but i truly wasn't ready
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Either God can not prevent evil or He will not. If He can not then He is not all-powerful and if He will not then He is not perfectly loving. Due to the existence of evil, God can not be both.

    That's the general contradiction.
    But what if evil exists only as a sort of 'ultimate test' for man?

    And it's just pass/fail, no grades given.
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    @suzianne said
    But what if evil exists only as a sort of 'ultimate test' for man?

    And it's just pass/fail, no grades given.
    Why would an all-loving God require such a test?!
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Why would an all-loving God require such a test?!
    You know, separating the wheat from the chaff?

    Your question is in line with "why require works?"
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    @suzianne said
    You know, separating the wheat from the chaff?

    Your question is in line with "why require works?"
    Why doesn't an all-loving God love the chaff?
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    @rookie54 said
    i've been tagged adonis
    i must admit it was heady
    i've also been tagged quasimodo
    but i truly wasn't ready
    i think you are crackers but you always make me smile
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    @suzianne said
    You know, separating the wheat from the chaff?

    Your question is in line with "why require works?"
    Separating the wit from the chavs is more productive.
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    @wolfgang59 said
    Separating the wit from the chavs is more productive.
    Tricky.

    I have known many chavs who are exceptionally witty.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Either God can not prevent evil or He will not. If He can not then He is not all-powerful and if He will not then He is not perfectly loving. Due to the existence of evil, God can not be both.

    That's the general contradiction.
    Without suffering life would be somewhat bland, don't you think? So evil is necessary for us to live at all. So God reigns fire and brimstone upon us so we know we are alive.
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    @ghost-of-a-duke said
    Why doesn't an all-loving God love the chaff?
    "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." -- Matthew 22:37-40, KJV

    The wheat follows these. The chaff does not.

    "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" -- John 10:26-27, KJV
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    @deepthought said
    So God reigns fire and brimstone upon us so we know we are alive.
    He could accomplish that with inferior chocolate. (No need for all the plague and pestilence).
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