Originally posted by Varqa
So you Think Math 25, ad 1 John 3:8-9 are wrong?
The Bible says Job was without sin. How do you explain that?
He will say we don't know how to read the Bible, and he will give you his interpretation to prove that Job was a sinner, to prove his point.
That what happen when someone give precedence to faith over what the scripture said.
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It is clear that Paul is the creator of the idea that every one is born sinner, he is the one who cursed the human race including Jesus himself, and our friends here are fighting to prove he was right.
Paul freed them from any commitment to GOD. He told them that GOD did evey thing for them, and they don't need to do anything. And evey human want that. So they follow him.
Imagin that, someone came and tell you that GOD died for you to make you free, and you don't have to do anything.
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EDIT: Jesus himself never talked about Adam,the original sin, or the sinning nature of human.
[ King James Version ]-[ Mt:19:14 ]-[ But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. ]
How could the children be in the kingdom of heaven while they were born in sin. Appearntly Jesus didn't believe that.