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John was there and he said "I saw" 36 times in the book of Revelation.

John literally saw things that are real, that will literally happen. John saw literal people, angels, places and a host of literally real things.

John was there, but you weren't.

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@secondson said
John was there and he said "I saw" 36 times in the book of Revelation.

John literally saw things that are real, that will literally happen. John saw literal people, angels, places and a host of literally real things.

John was there, but you weren't.
Please provide evidence that he was there (outside of him saying he was).

Please also provide evidence that he saw what he said he saw.

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@secondson said
John was there and he said "I saw" 36 times in the book of Revelation.

John literally saw things that are real, that will literally happen. John saw literal people, angels, places and a host of literally real things.

John was there, but you weren't.
Oh well.

I've been a lot of places that he never got to see, so I guess it evens out.

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Is your God a literal God, or a hypothetical God?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Please provide evidence that he was there (outside of him saying he was).

Please also provide evidence that he saw what he said he saw.
That's silly. Provide evidence to the contrary.

John was eye witness to the ministry of Jesus Christ. Saw Jesus die on the cross, and saw Him alive again afterwards, along with hundreds of others.

So without evidence that you will accept John is just lying?

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@bigdoggproblem said
Oh well.

I've been a lot of places that he never got to see, so I guess it evens out.
That's an irrelevant point.

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And I get tired of wishy-washy claim to be Christians that say Revelation is all metaphorical, but offer nothing about what it means.

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Your argument is without merit because everyone knows it's symbolic, but of what is the question.

The "multiheaded beast" is symbolic of something literal and real, and that's where you hit the wall. So, since you can't understand it, you become demeaning towards others.

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Good question actually. The literal things John saw were recorded in symbolic imagery.

The question you now need to ask yourself now is why and of what.

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The multiheaded beast is symbolic of something literal, as is the lake of fire.

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