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-Removed-Ok .. trying sweet-talk me now ? That works too. Im certain we will get along if we met face to face over a few drinks. Im very sociable. Thanks for the compliment, but some people cannot handle that aspect of my personality you mentioned so my circle of friends is small, but loyal. I quite like you too, but you need to [sometimes] stand for what is right and for what Christ said. Ok lets argue 😀
@rajk999 saidYou're not hoping to go to Heaven?
You cannot read. Jesus never said anyone goes to heaven, as I pointed out my first post, in fact he stated categorically that no man has ascended to heaven. You are foolishly contradicting Christ and in so doing aligning yourself with a doctrine which is Satanic.
@yo-its-me saidNo. You are hoping to go somewhere that Jesus categorically stated that you NOT GOING TO? I knew something was sadly amiss with your thinking.
You're not hoping to go to Heaven?
@rajk999 saidThere's something about the grammar or your sentence that's confusing me, sorry.
No. You are hoping to go somewhere that Jesus categorically stated that you NOT GOING TO? I knew something was sadly amiss with your thinking.
You don't think you can go to Heaven?
What do you imagine Hell is like?
You know how to imagine something don't you!? 😛
@yo-its-me saidIm not much into fantasizing about abstracts. I deal with the reality of things and in this case it is the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the way. Jesus is the truth. Jesus is the life. If you believe that then please provide a reference where Jesus says that people go to heaven. Thanks.
There's something about the grammar or your sentence that's confusing me, sorry.
You don't think you can go to Heaven?
What do you imagine Hell is like?
You know how to imagine something don't you!? 😛
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@rajk999 saidWhat are you doing in this threat then?
Im not much into fantasizing about abstracts. I deal with the reality of things and in this case it is the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus is the way. Jesus is the truth. Jesus is the life. If you believe that then please provide a reference where Jesus says that people go to heaven. Thanks.
For you;
What is heaven like? Here are 7 biblical facts about heaven. It is …
-God's dwelling place (Psalms 33:13).
-Where Christ is today (Acts 1:11).
-Where Christians go when they die (Philippians 1:21-23).
-The Father's house (John 14:2).
-A city designed and built by God (Hebrews 11:10).
-A better country (Hebrews 11:16).
-Paradise (Luke 23:43).
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@yo-its-me saidMany of those passages can be twisted and manipulated to mean heaven. But this one is clear
What are you doing in this threat then?
For you;
What is heaven like? Here are 7 biblical facts about heaven. It is …
-God's dwelling place (Psalms 33:13).
-Where Christ is today (Acts 1:11).
-Where Christians go when they die (Philippians 1:21-23).
-The Father's house (John 14:2).
-A city designed and built by God (Hebrews 11:10).
-A better country (Hebrews 11:16).
-Paradise (Luke 23:43).
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, .. (John 3:13 KJV)
I answered your other question about hell already.
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@rajk999 saidCarry on.
Many of those passages can be twisted and manipulated to mean heaven. But this one is clear
And ]b]no man[/b] hath ascended up to heaven, .. (John 3:13 KJV)
I answered your other question about hell already.
I can't argue with this.
@yo-its-me saidBut you are. Jesus says no man ascended to heaven and you keep saying that you DO. You are arguing with Christ.
Carry on.
I can't argue with this.
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@rajk999 said*sigh*
But you are. Jesus says no man ascended to heaven and you keep saying that you DO. You are arguing with Christ.
No.
No human had gone to Heaven except for Jesus at the time of John writing his Gospel.
That doesn't mean no human will ever go to Heaven, or that no human can ever go to Heaven.
Which is irreverent anyway. I didn't ask if you thought you'd go there. I asked what you imagined it was like.
And, the reason why I feel I can't argue (with you) is because of contradictions.
You abstractly take that one sentence and reject the one just a few sentences later that everyone who believes may have eternal life in Him.
To quote avatar, "It is hard to fill a cup that is already full."
To grow, in any sense, one has to be open to hearing new ways of doing things.
@yo-its-me "But what is that grave..."
The death of my body will be the death of me. My brain is the thinking part of me in the same way my lungs are the breathing part of me. Different structures performing different roles and all start to break down at death.
I do not think 'souls' exist. I realize many people think of mind and soul as different things, but for me, there is only the brain and that decays.
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@yo-its-me saidActually no. you want to 'argue' with me, first lets us agree that the teachings of Jesus Christ come first. Start from there otherwise, as you said, carry on. All that will happen is that I will tell you what Jesus said and you will tell me what the church pastor said and it will be a waste of time.
*sigh*
No.
No human had gone to Heaven except for Jesus at the time of John writing his Gospel.
That doesn't mean no human will ever go to Heaven, or that no human can ever go to Heaven.
Which is irreverent anyway. I didn't ask if you thought you'd go there. I asked what you imagined it was like.
And, the reason why I feel I can't argue (with you) is because of co ...[text shortened]... at is already full."
To grow, in any sense, one has to be open to hearing new ways of doing things.
I have no intention of opening my mind to false doctrines promoted by many churches. Been there done that.