@chaney3 saidIf you don't believe the God described by Christians makes any sense or if the nature of the God believed in by Christians deviates from the promises you seem to think that God figure makes, why do you persist in believing he exists and why do you every-so-now-and-then claim to be a Christian [except for when you claim you aren't one]?
If God is okay with human torment and suffering while we live on earth, then He's not much of a god.
@chaney3
Obviously, terrible things occur freely.
This is a part of free will.
The internal logic of Christianity, and I believe for much of theism, involves cosmic justice rewaded at the end.
In an atheist universe, when that happens to a boy, and the perpetrator is never caught, absolutely nothing happens other than the horrific crime. Your world view is even more bleak. So, why are you appealing to emotions?
@philokalia saidThen God only cares about humans in the afterlife, and not on earth? Right?
@chaney3
Obviously, terrible things occur freely.
This is a part of free will.
The internal logic of Christianity, and I believe for much of theism, involves cosmic justice rewaded at the end.
In an atheist universe, when that happens to a boy, and the perpetrator is never caught, absolutely nothing happens other than the horrific crime. Your world view is even more bleak. So, why are you appealing to emotions?
The bible contradicts itself, and human life has been sorted into a meaningless existence, while the focus shifted to Heaven.
Sorry, but we still live here on earth.
@chaney3 saidWhat is 70 years compared to an eternity?
Then God only cares about humans in the afterlife, and not on earth? Right?
The bible contradicts itself, and human life has been sorted into a meaningless existence, while the focus shifted to Heaven.
Sorry, but we still live here on earth.
Indeed, one of the attacks on Christianity is that it goes too far because the man who committed the crime you described would be in the pits of hell forever, which some saay would be disproprotionate.
It is also true that the innocent boy would be in heaven for eternity.
What seems like a more important thing..? Heaven, or a century or less on earth?
@chaney3 saidDoesn't Christianity and faith give you a code for living life well in the face of the "flesh dominates the spirit" aspect of the human condition? You sometimes claim to be a Christian, but it doesn't sound as if you were. Saying "Not really" in reply to the uncontroversial assertion that Christianity gives people a code for living life well, makes you sound like a non-Christian or a never-a-Christian.
Not really. It appears the flesh dominates the spirit.
@chaney3 saidYou have two statements here. Let's call them statement1 and statement2. Statement 1 is true. But this does not render statement2 true, in fact, it renders statement 2 false. Statement 1 could be seen as a central tenet of the Bible.
Man's free will cannot override God's love for us.
So the bible is flawed.
@suzianne saidSuzianne, there is something wrong between what the bible says, and the "real" life we live.
You have two statements here. Let's call them statement1 and statement2. Statement 1 is true. But this does not render statement2 true, in fact, it renders statement 2 false. Statement 1 could be seen as a central tenet of the Bible.
A profound thought will reveal it.
@philokalia saidIt needn't be.
@chaney3
Obviously, terrible things occur freely.
This is a part of free will.
Free will is deciding whether to go down the pub or stay in and watch tv.
@philokalia saidYour religion sir is nothing more than a bad Tarantino movie where every baddie in the end gets their comeuppance.
@chaney3
Obviously, terrible things occur freely.
This is a part of free will.
The internal logic of Christianity, and I believe for much of theism, involves cosmic justice rewaded at the end.
In an atheist universe, when that happens to a boy, and the perpetrator is never caught, absolutely nothing happens other than the horrific crime. Your world view is even more bleak. So, why are you appealing to emotions?
@ghost-of-a-duke saidBut every bad Tarantino movie has great music!
Your religion sir is nothing more than a bad Tarantino movie where every baddie in the end gets their comeuppance.
Actually, I like Tarantino's movies. Heck, I even thought Jackie Brown (1997) was good.