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Originally posted by FreakyKBHI believe the 'embarrassment emoticon' is flat.
Ha!
So he did.
Serves me right for ignoring a wall of text...
Where's that embarrassed emoticon?
Ah: there it is...
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Originally posted by checkbaiterI know we have disagreed a lot lately, but I cannot subscribe to this parallel of atonement. Sin is not cut out out or cut off it has been atoned for, paid for, covered through Christ's obedience.
Consider the following story. Imagine God as a loving compassionate surgeon. He loves each and every patient that comes into His office, but hates the disease that attacks them. Each day He lovingly treats each case. One day you come into God’s office with a case of gangrene. He loves you so much, but says He must make an amputation to save your life bec ...[text shortened]... ust remove sin or it will consume the entire universe and destroy the happiness of His creation.
Originally posted by checkbaiterYou are so far removed from the teachings of Jesus its not funny. In Matt 25 Jesus divided all people into two groups, the righteous and the wicked.
The wicked are those who reject God's free gift of salvation.
Originally posted by Rajk999Were you on vacation? I see you haven't changed from your "works " theology.
You are so far removed from the teachings of Jesus its not funny. In Matt 25 Jesus divided all people into two groups, the righteous and the wicked.
The righteous were those who were charitable and showed love and consideration to their neighbour. These were called into Gods Kingdom. The cursed and wicked were those who did no such thing and who wil ...[text shortened]... ated church doctrine that .. The wicked are those who reject God's free gift of salvation
Originally posted by checkbaiterYou believe in Christ with your mouth pal because you deny his teachings and substitute for it the teachings of man. Hypocrites will have no part in the Kingdom of God.
Were you on vacation? I see you haven't changed from your "works " theology.
Originally posted by checkbaiterIf God exists (he doesn't, but if he did) it would indeed be our works and our works alone that determined our salvation or damnation (if such things existed, which they don't).
Were you on vacation? I see you haven't changed from your "works " theology.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeMy idea of heaven would be looking down into hell and
If God exists (he doesn't, but if he did) it would indeed be our works and our works alone that determined our salvation or damnation (if such things existed, which they don't).
Unless you are willing to compromise on the qualities you instill in God (all-loving, just etc) then the way we treat each other will be of the utmost importance to him. I ...[text shortened]... eaven before a 'bad Christian' (someone who accepts the free gift of salvation but acts poorly).
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeIf God exists (he doesn't, but if he did) it would indeed be our works and our works alone that determined our salvation or damnation (if such things existed, which they don't).
If God exists (he doesn't, but if he did) it would indeed be our works and our works alone that determined our salvation or damnation (if such things existed, which they don't).
Unless you are willing to compromise on the qualities you instill in God (all-loving, just etc) then the way we treat each other will be of the utmost importance to him. I ...[text shortened]... eaven before a 'bad Christian' (someone who accepts the free gift of salvation but acts poorly).
Originally posted by checkbaiterIf Christ had truly transformed you and your ilk to be holy and pure and you have a new heart, then why is it that all you people DO is talk about how much you are such filthy sinners?
[b]If God exists (he doesn't, but if he did) it would indeed be our works and our works alone that determined our salvation or damnation (if such things existed, which they don't).
There are two ways to look at this.
1. The bible says that no one can be saved by works. We cannot earn our way to be approved by God. We have all sinned and fall short ...[text shortened]... tain salvation, when salvation is a free gift which cannot be earned. There is a big difference.[/b]
Originally posted by divegeesterWas this from a different thread?
I know we have disagreed a lot lately, but I cannot subscribe to this parallel of atonement. Sin is not cut out out or cut off it has been atoned for, paid for, covered through Christ's obedience.
Furthermore, would the surgeon in your example say to someone who does not what their infected limb removed "that is your choice, but because you have cho ...[text shortened]... ot allow me to help you, I am going to have to torture you in a flesh-melting hell for eternity"
Originally posted by divegeesterOh, I see from the link... This analogy would be more appropriate to population as a whole. Like the flood. If God had not acted, there would not have been a true bloodline to bring about the Messiah.
No, I was replying to your post earlier in this thread.