Originally posted by RBHILLI'm not an atheist. I just claim to know nothing pertaining to what God is or how it works.. The Christian faith that I grew up in has turned me off since I was a child. The Hell idea tells me that it's a primitive religion with primitive ideas about the nature of goodness. Nothing good in my view comes from torture. I can't get behind a God that displays a mean and touchy attitude about us filthy sinners. To want to become a part of a religion there must be something appealing about the doctrine that reals you in. Something that sounds better than good. It sounds perfect in every way. Christianity leaves me cold because of it's concept of an angry God that needed a Blood sacrafice from His Son before mankind could be forgivin for the sins of Adam and Eve. Wacky is an understatement.
Originally posted by KellyJay
What is evil in your eyes?
People who.....
Kelly
I think it is evil to send people to Hell. That is the most evil concept of them all. Hell is a nasty evil idea that should be dumped into the trash can of wrong concepts.
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Originally posted by vishvahetuWhen it says thou shall not kill it is talking about humans.
What dont you understand of "thou shalt not kill"
Its in your own teachings.
Defending animal slaughter is nonsense, and any religion that supports it is bogus, and is cheating the people.
Like in genesis God killed an animal instead of adam and eve for a scarifice for them
Originally posted by vishvahetuJesus also took it a little ferther by saying if you hate someone you have killed in your heart.
What dont you understand of "thou shalt not kill"
Its in your own teachings.
Defending animal slaughter is nonsense, and any religion that supports it is bogus, and is cheating the people.
Originally posted by vishvahetuAre you familiar with the section in Genesis talking about Cain and Abel?
This is the pathetic level Christians have come, defending animal cruelty.
The Bible is bogus...... and only foolish and insincere persons accept it.
Cain was a farmer, while Abel was a shepherd. They were to both give a sacrifice unto the Lord, and naturally, Cain's sacrifice was the bounty of his harvest, vegetables and such, while Abel's sacrifice was the bounty of his flock, an animal (lamb, sheep, goat, I dunno, it's beside the point).
Abel's sacrifice was pleasing to the Lord, while Cain's was not. Cain grew jealous of Abel, and in his rage, slew him. Cain sinned in the eyes of the Lord because he murdered Abel. If what you say is true, and killing an animal is a sin, then both would have sinned equally, but this is obviously not the case.
You call my book bogus and me foolish and insincere, and yet you claim your book is true, even though you also claim that it has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Right, yeah, clearly, that's logical.
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Originally posted by SuzianneGod didnt like cains because plants aren't really likving things in a biblical sence.
Are you familiar with the section in Genesis talking about Cain and Abel?
Cain was a farmer, while Abel was a shepherd. They were to both give a sacrifice unto the Lord, and naturally, Cain's sacrifice was the bounty of his harvest, vegetables and such, while Abel's sacrifice was the bounty of his flock, an animal (lamb, sheep, goat, I dunno, it's besid has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Right, yeah, clearly, that's logical.
I bet Vishie will not responed.
Originally posted by buckkyI don't see why you don't find hope in a human Sacrifice of Jesus for us. To me there is more hope in this then trying to work for our own salvation.
I'm not an atheist. I just claim to know nothing pertaining to what God is or how it works.. The Christian faith that I grew up in has turned me off since I was a child. The Hell idea tells me that it's a primitive religion with primitive ideas about the nature of goodness. Nothing good in my view comes from torture. I can't get behind a God that displays a m ...[text shortened]... n before mankind could be forgivin for the sins of Adam and Eve. Wacky is an understatement.
Originally posted by RBHILLWhy the need for a Blood sacrafice ? Does that not seem somewhat cave man in it's nature? It turns me off. It does not inspire me at all. It seems nuts.
I don't see why you don't find hope in a human Sacrifice of Jesus for us. To me there is more hope in this then trying to work for our own salvation.
Originally posted by buckkyRead "The Gift of the Magi" by O. Henry. It won't take long, it's a short story. You can even find it online.
Why the need for a Blood sacrafice ? Does that not seem somewhat cave man in it's nature? It turns me off. It does not inspire me at all. It seems nuts.
Redemption through the Cross is a loving gift from God. You're letting the forest blind you to the trees.
Originally posted by SuzianneThose insignificant details sicken me. How can I get past them ? Why don't you become a Hindhu ? I bet there is something about that religion that turns you off ? Something about Christianity turns me off. It's the insignificant details that make or break a religion. Why even have them if they make no difference ? Why even talk of the Blood of Christ ? Why not just jump over the whole story, and just believe in Jesus ? Is that what you are saying ? I thought the main idea was to believe in the Cross as a way to Salvation ? Is the Cross an insignifcant detail ?
Actually, I think I got the phrase wrong.
It's supposed to be "You can't see the forest for the trees."
Meaning you are focusing on insignificant details. The value of the whole is more important.
Originally posted by SuzianneThe story is fabricated and not real........so I am not going to comment about it.
Are you familiar with the section in Genesis talking about Cain and Abel?
Cain was a farmer, while Abel was a shepherd. They were to both give a sacrifice unto the Lord, and naturally, Cain's sacrifice was the bounty of his harvest, vegetables and such, while Abel's sacrifice was the bounty of his flock, an animal (lamb, sheep, goat, I dunno, it's besid ...[text shortened]... has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Right, yeah, clearly, that's logical.